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RE: Avon Buses - T42 PVM - 26/06/2017 15:36
This is getting worse not better, Why is it taking Merseytravel so long to act!
RE: Avon Buses - Busguy12 - 26/06/2017 16:22
The Avon buses I have seen today have has very few if not any passengers on, surely they need to sort there act and very quick
RE: Avon Buses - Barney - 26/06/2017 21:42
(26/06/2017 15:08)Jw88 Wrote: From Merseytravel Avon Buses Services That Are Canceled Today
18:15 10A New Brighton - Arrowe Park Hospital
18:39 144 Bootle - Netherton
18:45 293 West Kirby - Woodside
19:00 10A Arrowe Park Hospital - New Brighton
19:06 144 Netherton - Bootle
19:20 88 Heswall - West Kirby
19:38 293 Woodside - West Kirby
19:39 144 Bootle - Netherton
19:45 293 West Kirby - Woodside
20:06 144 Netherton - Bootle
20:11 492 Woodside - Noctourm Circular
20:28 88 West Kirby - Neston Cross
20:38 293 Woodside - West Kirby
20:39 144 Bootle - Netherton
20:45 293 West Kirby - Woodside
21:06 144 Netherton - Bootle
21:08 88 Neston Cross - West Kirby
21:11 492 Woodside - Noctourm Circular
21:28 88 West Kirby - Neston Cross
21:39 144 Bootle - Netherton
21:45 293 West Kirby - Woodside
22:06 144 Netherton - Bootle
22:08 88 Neston Cross - West Kirby
22:11 492 Woodside - Noctourm Circular
22:38 293 Woodside - West Kirby
22:39 144 Bootle - Netherton
22:45 293 West Kirby - Woodside
23:06 144 Netherton - Bootle
23:11 492 Woodside - Noctourm Circular
23:28 88 West Kirby - Heswall
The solution is simple: give these contracts to operators who can run them. Now.
RE: Avon Buses - WAITING FOR THE 437 - 27/06/2017 11:34
I see yet more extensive cancellations again listed on the Merseytravel Website today. All evening services, affecting both commerical and part funded services. How on earth they have managed to register more services from the 23rd of July is beyond me. They will be running the 30, 164 & 165 in addition from 23rd July.
RE: Avon Buses - T42 PVM - 27/06/2017 11:36
the other services was registered before services started to drop, its good they lose the 883 on that date otherwise it would of been even worse
RE: Avon Buses - WAITING FOR THE 437 - 27/06/2017 11:41
Its a shame as they are a good local operator but they are losing customers left right and centre, when that happens it's hard to get the confidence back. Surely they could arrange a temporary provider for their tendered work
RE: Avon Buses - Barney - 27/06/2017 13:27
(27/06/2017 11:41)WAITING FOR THE 437 Wrote: Its a shame as they are a good local operator but they are losing customers left right and centre, when that happens it's hard to get the confidence back. Surely they could arrange a temporary provider for their tendered work
I really don't know how it can be claimed that "they are a good local operator" if Avon is consistently unable to provide bus services that are being funded by tax payers as, in any other situation, this would be considered fraud. Having waited for several of these services that failed to run I have very little sympathy with Avon and I'm sure that I am not alone.
Without having any inside knowledge, I suspect that it won't be long before Avon goes the way of so many other small independent operators in recent years. The heady days of bus deregulation are well behind us and I foresee only two operators providing bus services on Merseyside by the end of this decade.
RE: Avon Buses - WAITING FOR THE 437 - 27/06/2017 13:37
I agree with what you said. Just think it's a shame they took too much work on. Not enough drivers and not enough good quality buses
RE: Avon Buses - St Helens Rider - 27/06/2017 13:39
(27/06/2017 13:27)Barney Wrote: I really don't know how it can be claimed that "they are a good local operator" if Avon is consistently unable to provide bus services that are being funded by tax payers as, in any other situation, this would be considered fraud. Having waited for several of these services that failed to run I have very little sympathy with Avon and I'm sure that I am not alone.
Without having any inside knowledge, I suspect that it won't be long before Avon goes the way of so many other small independent operators in recent years. The heady days of bus deregulation are well behind us and I foresee only two operators providing bus services on Merseyside by the end of this decade.
Operators do lose money when they drop contracted journeys as this has been mentioned by Merseytravel when I have complained in the past about contracted journeys not turning up.
The problem, if Avon did disappear, Merseytravel would struggle as a lot of Avon's commercial work are former contracts which I can't see others being willing to run.
RE: Avon Buses - wirralbus - 27/06/2017 13:48
The problem that Avon had is the movement of staff to other bus companies in this case a few members of staff jumped ship to Stagecoach.
In this case im sure Avon would be more than willing to withdraw a route or two to make themselves look so more reliable , but the service registration / withdrawal procedure kills so many companies off .
I myself dont want to lose another bus company.
Im sure Merseytravel do not want just two companies either because that just inflates the price of any contracted work and in the end who loses out us the travelling public.