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RE: Stagecoach Merseyside - Gillmoss Depot - PO59 MXJ - 21/12/2014 20:45

(21/12/2014 15:13)mbonwick Wrote:  Would guess at B10M replacement for Welsh school contracts.

I assume standing is prohibited on the Bluebirds? If so they'll be classed as coaches so DDA exempt until 2017.

No standing on the Bluebirds. Just 60 seated passengers.

While we're on the topic of the Bluebirds, I recall someone mentioning that 2 have tacos fitted. 29882 is one, does anyone know what other one has it fitted? Its definately not 29880.


RE: Stagecoach Merseyside - Gillmoss Depot - R879 HRF - 22/12/2014 06:10

(21/12/2014 17:45)E208 WBG Wrote:  Is Gillmoss operating buses on Wirral Christmas Day like previous years or will Rock Ferry operate them this time around

Gillmoss will be running the Wirral routes but using wirrals drivers as last year.


RE: Stagecoach Merseyside - Gillmoss Depot - wirralbus - 22/12/2014 06:20

Does make a lot of sense to just use one set of vehicles out of one depot .

Is the Christmas Day contract for these services arranged on a yearly basis or a multi year deal.


RE: Stagecoach Merseyside - Gillmoss Depot - Garsty - 22/12/2014 12:30

(21/12/2014 18:36)mbonwick Wrote:  As I said before, B10M replacements are a good possibility.

Wales have a number of 63 seat B10Ms for schools, and clearly with DDA legislation these must be gone by the end of 2015. Given that (I assume) the Bluebirds are classed as coaches, then they are OK to be used until 2020.

They actually have special dispensation and you are right in saying they comply until January 2020.
Quote:1. Subject to conditions 2 and 3 below, the vehicle shall comply with all the provisions of Schedule 3 to the Public Service Vehicles Accessibility Regulations 2000, as amended.
2. Paragraph 3(1)(a) of Schedule 3 shall not apply to the passenger seats positioned immediately above road wheel arch floor intrusions.
3. Paragraph 7 of Schedule 3 shall not apply.
4. Any passenger carried on the vehicle shall be either:
(i) a “pupil” as defined in section 3 of the Education Act 1996 ; or
(ii) a non fare paying passenger.
I discussed this a few years ago on my blog (a few link are now out of date):
http://wrexhamtransport.co.uk/aares_and_the_dda_compliance/

EDIT: Missed this the other day:
charlesdaryl59 Wrote:I have been notified of the presence of CX02 EGJ, an ex First Wigan Bluebird AARE (acquired by Stagecoach with the business of First Wigan) at Blackwood depot.

I'm able to provide any details behind the reason for this move.

Daryl
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/welsh-bus-news/conversations/messages/29225
Blackwood depot in South Wales of course, might explain why the other day I had three people from South Wales favorite the same picture of CX02 EGJ on Flickr!


RE: Stagecoach Merseyside - Gillmoss Depot - mbonwick - 22/12/2014 13:56

An interesting article, thanks Garsty.

My reading of the exemption is to basically turn the single deck status of the Bluebirds into coaches - provided they are used as intended on schools only.


RE: Stagecoach Merseyside - Gillmoss Depot - DVG526 - 25/12/2014 13:49

27150 on 110X. Merry Xmas.


RE: Stagecoach Merseyside - Gillmoss Depot - YN05 WKE - 25/12/2014 15:30

27150 and 27145 on 110X
27148 + 2 others on 118X


RE: Stagecoach Merseyside - Gillmoss Depot - R557 ABA - 25/12/2014 16:45

Here's my Christmas Day Bus Services post for anyone who's interested,

http://www.thenorthwestbusblog.co.uk/2014/12/christmas-day-bus-services-on-wirral.html

Buses in use on the Wirral, SN64 OHY (27143), SN64 OHT (27145), SN64 OHU (27146), SN64 OHW (27148) & SN64 OHY (27150).

The North West Bus Blog is also three years old today.


RE: Stagecoach Merseyside - Gillmoss Depot - Bevan Price - 25/12/2014 21:24

(25/12/2014 15:30)E208 WBG Wrote:  27150 and 27145 on 110X
27148 + 2 others on 118X
Plus 47711 & 47712 on 194X / 195X in St. Helens


RE: Stagecoach Merseyside - Gillmoss Depot - St Helens Rider - 25/12/2014 23:08

(25/12/2014 21:24)Bevan Price Wrote:  Plus 47711 & 47712 on 194X / 195X in St. Helens

Interesting that they used Solos this year on these routes as last year Enviro 300s were used.