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RE: Arriva Buses Wales - Wrexham Depot - PO62 MKA - 18/08/2013 15:53

(18/08/2013 12:13)Conbus Wrote:  
(12/08/2013 09:30)motormayhem Wrote:  The 12 would of been better but if they done the 12 then they would have to bin the lowering the seating capacity up stairs as the 12 is well used and needs as much seating as possible as i wouldnt like to stand from rhyl/towyn all the way to llandudno.

yes i agree totally The 12s need deckers on all journeys. I was on a pulsar and it was packed bearing in mind that was 21:30 at night

I think the 12 is Rhyl's busiest route in terms of passenger numbers and profitability, however with the frequency being every 10-12 minutes during the day, does it justify double-decker use for the full peak vehicle requirement (PVR). Question here Conbus is the route busy in the winter as well at that time of day because I suspect a lot of passengers are tourists.


RE: Arriva Buses Wales - Wrexham Depot - wirralbus - 18/08/2013 16:22

(18/08/2013 15:53)PO62 MKA Wrote:  
(18/08/2013 12:13)Conbus Wrote:  
(12/08/2013 09:30)motormayhem Wrote:  The 12 would of been better but if they done the 12 then they would have to bin the lowering the seating capacity up stairs as the 12 is well used and needs as much seating as possible as i wouldnt like to stand from rhyl/towyn all the way to llandudno.

yes i agree totally The 12s need deckers on all journeys. I was on a pulsar and it was packed bearing in mind that was 21:30 at night

I think the 12 is Rhyl's busiest route in terms of passenger numbers and profitability, however with the frequency being every 10-12 minutes during the day, does it justify double-decker use for the full peak vehicle requirement (PVR). Question here Conbus is the route busy in the winter as well at that time of day because I suspect a lot of passengers are tourists.

2130 in the Summer it will still be busy , people still want to enjoy themselves for as long as is possible.

2130 in the Winter , i doubt it will be a packed vehicle .


RE: Arriva Buses Wales - Wrexham Depot - Conbus - 18/08/2013 20:39

(18/08/2013 16:22)wirralbus Wrote:  
(18/08/2013 15:53)PO62 MKA Wrote:  
(18/08/2013 12:13)Conbus Wrote:  yes i agree totally The 12s need deckers on all journeys. I was on a pulsar and it was packed bearing in mind that was 21:30 at night

I think the 12 is Rhyl's busiest route in terms of passenger numbers and profitability, however with the frequency being every 10-12 minutes during the day, does it justify double-decker use for the full peak vehicle requirement (PVR). Question here Conbus is the route busy in the winter as well at that time of day because I suspect a lot of passengers are tourists.

2130 in the Summer it will still be busy , people still want to enjoy themselves for as long as is possible.


2130 in the Winter , i doubt it will be a packed vehicle .

to be honest most of the buses are packed winter/summer at that time. The holiday makers have been using the 1 a lot more this year. tbh i think they should operate the 1 in the winter. I was speaking to one of the rhyl drivers and it has made +55% more profit than last year


RE: Arriva Buses Wales - Wrexham Depot - wirralbus - 19/08/2013 10:53

Im not doubting you about the Summer , but after the Half Term break in the autumn ridership will almost certaintly drop off as the caravan parks start the closing down process for the dark winter months , before reopening for the Half Term and then Easter.


RE: Arriva Buses Wales - Wrexham Depot - R311 WVR - 25/08/2013 09:59

I was using the 12 a few weeks back on a sunday, where the frequency is supposed to be 20 minutes, But there were a few extra buses running throughout the day, loadings were in large amounts!


RE: Arriva Buses Wales - Wrexham Depot - Conbus - 25/08/2013 20:06

(25/08/2013 09:59)R311 WVR Wrote:  I was using the 12 a few weeks back on a sunday, where the frequency is supposed to be 20 minutes, But there were a few extra buses running throughout the day, loadings were in large amounts!

Yeah i know there are talks of putting sunday freq to every 15 mins


RE: Arriva Buses Wales - Wrexham Depot - R311 WVR - 27/08/2013 07:48

4701, The Arriva Midlands Lowlander, Is at Wrexham depot on the 1 today.


RE: Arriva Buses Wales - Wrexham Depot - wirralbus - 27/08/2013 08:00

Is 4701 going to be the spare for the service 1 , or is there other plans for the use of this vehicle .


RE: Arriva Buses Wales - Wrexham Depot - R311 WVR - 27/08/2013 08:16

Not sure, But I've just seen a facebook photo of it with the bonnet up in Wrexham bus station...


RE: Arriva Buses Wales - Wrexham Depot - Garsty - 27/08/2013 14:45

I would have thought it would just be stopping off on its way back to the Midlands