(30/07/2016 11:59)wirralbus Wrote:  If this alteration does take place to the service 2 are we looking at the beginning of the end for the 38 as a through route and it just becoming a Birkenhead - West Kirby service .

(30/07/2016 13:13)wirralbus Wrote:  To be honest the 38 between Bromborough Croft Retail park and Birkenhead doesn't need any more buses on it , so are we seeing the carving up of the 38 route right before our very eyes .

This service 2 registration makes very interesting reading , somebody in Stagecoach clearly likes Port Sunlight and im surprised its not used in marketing more for them.

(30/07/2016 15:39)Dentonian Wrote:  I don't think Registration documents themselves are available to the public, but in theory (lol), once changes are inside the 56 day notice period, the relevant local authorities (note, I said plural) should have the documentation, to make sure changes can be accomodated in Bus Stations etc, and the new/revised/withdrawn timetables/routes can be publicised to the general public.

I'm not sure phrases like "take on" and more especially "rob" are particularly helpful, but in an industry in almost permanent decline, I don't think unnecessary bus wars should be encouraged, anyway. Stagecoach more than anyone are very efficient in using their resources, and their fleet will closely match what is required to run the routes you mention. There is no use running buses for the sake of it between, say, 0900 & 1400 if there are insufficient passengers to generate a profit over and above driver's wages, fuel, bus station departure charges etc.

(30/07/2016 16:03)iMarkeh Wrote:  Stagecoach are goot at using their buses but there is always buses sat at the back of the depot and they could be doing things. Even if it is just increasing the SP1/2 or 36 for a few hours. It is better to try and get a bit of profit than keep the buses sat in the depot.

(30/07/2016 13:42)iMarkeh Wrote:  Where can I find the registration thing filled in? I know VOSA has a list of the registrations but I can never find like an amended route or times ect. The council got a few while I was on Work Ex there but are they available to the public?

I want SC to take on more routes and maybe take on the 7 and some more general routes in Birkenhead/Chester. Rock Ferry depot is massive and they have about 5 routes (41/42, 1/2, 471/472, 38) and maybe one or two schools but inbetween schools, they could do so much with their buses. It seems like they have too few routes. Maybe they need to rob some from Arriva in North Birkenhead.

(30/07/2016 16:03)iMarkeh Wrote:  That is a shame. CWACC never give timetables until the day and even then that is only on bus stops and nothing is ever online. Merseytravel are likely to have it soon I hope. They are normally quite good. I dont know the correct lingo really but people know what I mean. I dont understand how the industry is in decline when lots of people use buses. Stagecoach are goot at using their buses but there is always buses sat at the back of the depot and they could be doing things. Even if it is just increasing the SP1/2 or 36 for a few hours. It is better to try and get a bit of profit than keep the buses sat in the depot. SP1/2 are funded so they should make the money on that. 36 is commercial so I am unsure but I think it must have been popular as GHA had it on a 30 min frequency.

(30/07/2016 17:39)chester285 Wrote:  Chester hardly has any spare buses in the depot compared to Rockferry,

(30/07/2016 16:37)WhiteVanMan Wrote:  If every bus was used every day. Then what would happen when a bus is off the road due to accident damage?

(30/07/2016 16:52)Dentonian Wrote:  I can't speak for Cheshire West or East, or indeed Merseytravel, but TFGM are forever receiving Registrations well after the 56 days notice period, so combined with the number of changes made (about 130 in GM from 4th September), you can see how it can often be close to introduction date for timetables to be available.

If an operator increases the level of a "funded" service, then there will be serious questions asked by the Tendering Authority (on behalf of the tax payer) as to why the service is subsidised in the first place.

(30/07/2016 17:32)chester285 Wrote:  The problem is with Chester the depot is too small really for the purpose, I think if Chester are to introduce new routes other than the ones picked up from the collapse of GHA they would have to look at either relocation or an out station , it would be nice to see both depots take on new routes but I can't see them taking on Arriva, particularly from Chester into north wales

(30/07/2016 17:39)chester285 Wrote:  Chester hardly has any spare buses in the depot compared to Rockferry, I doubt at the moment that they will increase frequency on the SP1/2 as they are currently on emergency contract with the support of Flintshire council, regarding the 36 until they have settled its on the route an reduced timetable makesnmore sense