+- Forum | Merseyside Dennis Dart Website (http://dartslf.com/forum)
+-- Forum: Buses (/forumdisplay.php?fid=1)
+--- Forum: Local Bus Scene: North West and Wales (/forumdisplay.php?fid=2)
+--- Thread: Avon Buses (/showthread.php?tid=15)
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148
RE: Avon Buses - Metroline1511 - 18/10/2014 20:42
The 441, 442 and 473 will be remarkable routes for linking the Wirral with Liverpool beyond the City Centre.
RE: Avon Buses - E400 - 18/10/2014 21:04
(18/10/2014 20:42)Metroline1511 Wrote: The 441, 442 and 473 will be remarkable routes for linking the Wirral with Liverpool beyond the City Centre.
They would be if they are actual daytime services rather than early morning and evening only like the 143 and co. Fingers crossed they are, as I would definitely find them useful.
RE: Avon Buses - Barney - 18/10/2014 22:24
(18/10/2014 21:04)Enviro400 Wrote: They would be if they are actual daytime services rather than early morning and evening only like the 143 and co. Fingers crossed they are, as I would definitely find them useful.
Prior to deregulation in 1986 I was shown a list of registrations for new commercial services. I cannot remember the full details but one of them was indeed a route between the Wirral and north Liverpool. Whether it ever ran or was cancelled before the 26th October, I cannot recall.
What I do find odd is the change-over position of Avon's 122 (Crosby-Aintree Hospital) commercial service. It would seem logical to do the change-over at one of the two termini but this is not the case. Surprisingly, Avon use the half-way point near the Magdalene Square which is where the two vehicles meet. What is even more surprising that they send the two drivers in two of their vans for the changeover at 10.45 and 11.15 each morning.
Now that Avon have made inroads into tendered services in the Bootle/Litherland area, surely it is worth considering registering occasional commercial services to facilitate these change-overs as well as positioning first and last buses?
RE: Avon Buses - WAITING FOR THE 437 - 21/10/2014 06:54
Do we know what the alterations are, to the advertised routes in West Kirby?
RE: Avon Buses - N271CKB - 26/10/2014 21:13
Avons first day on the 202/4 saw darts 454 and 252 working alongside mcv 407
RE: Avon Buses - wirralbus - 29/10/2014 20:44
(21/10/2014 06:54)WAITING FOR THE 437 Wrote: Do we know what the alterations are, to the advertised routes in West Kirby?
Im interested to find out about the changes for the 77 , 82/A and 88
Is the 77 Birkenhead - West Kirby being split and the Heswall - West Kirby section becoming the 82/82A .
RE: Avon Buses - Valandil - 03/11/2014 17:28
It is interesting that Avon's new services in Litherland are to have non-standard Merseytravel fares.
(Though perhaps this was the case with the previous operator -- I am not familiar with that area).
RE: Avon Buses - M113 YKC - 04/11/2014 00:50
(03/11/2014 17:28)Valandil Wrote: It is interesting that Avon's new services in Litherland are to have non-standard Merseytravel fares.This has been the case since Avon started on the Litherland 144/145 a few months ago. The services are part-subsidised/part-commercial rather than fully-subsidised by Merseytravel, with the higher fares compensating for the smaller subsidy (whereas, to my knowledge, Avon wouldn't keep the takings if the services were fully-subsidised).
(Though perhaps this was the case with the previous operator -- I am not familiar with that area).
RE: Avon Buses - Valandil - 04/11/2014 04:02
(04/11/2014 00:50)YJ59 AZA Wrote: This has been the case since Avon started on the Litherland 144/145 a few months ago. The services are part-subsidised/part-commercial rather than fully-subsidised by Merseytravel, with the higher fares compensating for the smaller subsidy (whereas, to my knowledge, Avon wouldn't keep the takings if the services were fully-subsidised).
Ah, I see, so it is just the positioning journeys for these which are new.
Thanks for the info.
RE: Avon Buses - YK53 GXO - 04/11/2014 10:30
New Timetables -
10/10A/11 - http://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/travelling-around/timetables/AllTimetables/10%20New%20Brighton%20-%20Arrowe%20Park%20Hospital%20%28from%208%20December%202014%29.pdf
77/77A - http://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/travelling-around/timetables/AllTimetables/77%20Woodside%20-%20Heswall%20%28from%208%20December%202014%29.pdf
83/83A - http://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/travelling-around/timetables/AllTimetables/83%20Birkenhead%20-%20West%20Kirby%20%28from%208%20December%202014%29.pdf
86/87 - http://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/travelling-around/timetables/AllTimetables/87%20Heswall%20-%20Eastham%20Ferry%20%28from%208%20December%202014%29.pdf
143/144/145 - http://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/travelling-around/timetables/AllTimetables/143%20Bootle%20-%20Litherland%20%28from%208%20December%202014%29.pdf
441/442/473 - http://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/travelling-around/timetables/AllTimetables/441%20Woodchurch%20-%20Litherland%20%28from%208%20December%202014%29.pdf