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RE: Stagecoach North East - Southernsofty - 08/11/2012 06:44
(07/11/2012 23:52)mbonwick Wrote: I'm not really sure on any of this, so I'm open to correction;Many thanks for the detailed info on this subject.
The 'old' reg stuff (V/X/Y and 10.5m 51 reg Tridents) have always been owned.
9.9m 51 reg Tridents and newer were taken on Hire Purchase by Macquarie to finance the purchase (hence some 52 regs being 'sold' when their financial difficulties started).
The Hire-Purchase on the 51 regs was shorter than everything else (lower value), and has already been paid off. I think the same is true for the 52 regs.
I'm not sure what length of H-P agreement is on the 03 regs and newer, so can't say when they'll be 'owned'. However, if its 7 years (a contract cycle plus extension), then 2013/4 is when they'll start being paid off.
I've no idea on the darts, but would suggest they're already owned due to being worth less from the start.
As I said before, I'm not sure on any of this, I'm just going on what I've heard. That and the fact that when the Citaro artics went onto disposal, they had a note that they were to be returned off lease. Also, they only spent 1 period on disposal - the 52 reg Tridents have spent 2 so far....
One last question if I may, I seem to remember reading somewhere that Stagecoach usual financial model in terms of new vehicle acquisition (outside of London) was some form of HP (or whatever the current lease terminology is), is this still the case, and if so what are the time periods?
Many thanks - Surreyman.
RE: Stagecoach North East - kuyoyo - 08/11/2012 09:44
(07/11/2012 20:29)cumbria0902150 Wrote: If what I have been told is true, Stockton will not be getting any Olympian replacements until the Macmillan contract is retendered. Officially that is all the Olympians are for and it isn't really worth getting replacement vehicles while there is a chance they could lose the contract, and even then the new tender could specify a capacity above the Tridents.
If that turns out to be the case then likelihood is the Olympians will have minimum of 2 years left (vontract was last renewed in 2009).
RE: Stagecoach North East - cumbria0902150 - 08/11/2012 12:47
Ensignbus have bought a lot of the B10BLE's, including Prestige bodied ones. The ones they've bought should all be collected over the next few weeks.
33127 on 685 today replacing a broken coach, I think it was 52626 but I'll check on that later.
RE: Stagecoach North East - mattdw92 - 08/11/2012 18:45
(08/11/2012 12:47)cumbria0902150 Wrote: 33127 on 685 today replacing a broken coach, I think it was 52626 but I'll check on that later.
The lovely 33127 darting about...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/williamsonm/8167339179/in/photostream/
RE: Stagecoach North East - N391OTY - 09/11/2012 00:08
Yes, it was 52626 that broke down. I observed it being towed up Shields Road towards Walkergate at about 11am.
33127 on 685 today replacing a broken coach, I think it was 52626 but I'll check on that later.
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The lovely 33127 darting about...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/williamsonm/8167339179/in/photostream/
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RE: Stagecoach North East - kuyoyo - 09/11/2012 21:49
(08/11/2012 18:45)mattdw92 Wrote:(08/11/2012 12:47)cumbria0902150 Wrote: 33127 on 685 today replacing a broken coach, I think it was 52626 but I'll check on that later.
The lovely 33127 darting about...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/williamsonm/8167339179/in/photostream/
This extremely rare working brings up another point for the future in case this happens again - to make a point of having the 685 programmed into the display lists, something I'm actually surprised isn't already programmmed in.
Also yesterday, seems Teesside was in on the act of rare working - 16839 on the 36 (although it may have been a duplicate run covering for a late running trip) (Photo @ Sean Blair)
RE: Stagecoach North East - MIB - 09/11/2012 22:26
(09/11/2012 21:49)kuyoyo Wrote:(08/11/2012 18:45)mattdw92 Wrote: [quote='cumbria0902150' pid='21687' dateline='1352378864']
33127 on 685 today replacing a broken coach, I think it was 52626 but I'll check on that later.
The lovely 33127 darting about...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/williamsonm/8167339179/in/photostream/
This extremely rare working brings up another point for the future in case this happens again - to make a point of having the 685 programmed into the display lists, something I'm actually surprised isn't already programmmed in.
Also yesterday, seems Teesside was in on the act of rare working - 16839 on the 36 (although it may have been a duplicate run covering for a late running trip) (Photo @ Sean Blair)
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Tell me about it. I was coming out of Middlesbrough station when 16839 went by from Park End with 36 Hartlepool on the blind. I dashed to the bus station and it was just leaving as I got there at 1234. Had my train not been 5 minutes late I would have had it so well gutted.
We were on the 11 this morning with 16834 and bizarrely we were all turfed off at Acklam and put on 16837 not that I'm complaining. This evening 16836 was on the 38.
RE: Stagecoach North East - tyresmoke - 09/11/2012 22:28
Yes I believe 16839 got taken off in Stockton on that run as when it came back from Hartlepool it was an Enviro300 (one of my friends was driving it!). Presumably you would have seen me going through with 22195 to Park End as I left Middlesbrough about 1245
RE: Stagecoach North East - rachel - 09/11/2012 22:29
I am sick of seening old man alx-300 buses everytime that the stagecoach on teeside are beening rid off and withdrawing busesall there are geting for buses is alexander alx-300 I would like to see a diffrent buses for a change like the ones at arriva buses and see differtent buese
RE: Stagecoach North East - MIB - 10/11/2012 07:25
(09/11/2012 22:28)tyresmoke Wrote: Yes I believe 16839 got taken off in Stockton on that run as when it came back from Hartlepool it was an Enviro300 (one of my friends was driving it!). Presumably you would have seen me going through with 22195 to Park End as I left Middlesbrough about 1245
Thanks for confirming that I would not have got to Hartlepool on that service I don't feel so bad now. I assume it must have done the 1031 from Hartlepool earlier. Alas I did not see you as I went for lunch at 1240 before I started travelling which was my plan all along.