Quote:Hello all. After what will be 441 days, the Snake X57 will be withdrawn after operation on Saturday 8 January 2022. This was a very difficult and even emotional decision to take, but for a myriad of reasons, ultimately the passenger numbers weren’t quite there. We feel that, despite a number of obstacles, we have given the service every opportunity to develop and succeed but, unfortunately, good will and kind words don’t pay the bills.
I would like to place on record my thanks to each and every customer for giving us and the X57 a chance to serve you. I would also like to thank our amazing team of Drivers who’ve battled their way through temporary traffic lights, snow, ice, road closures that were announced, road closures that weren’t announced along with some outrageous diversions, diversions on diversions, unannounced road closures on diversions on diversions and the infamous Mottram Moor bottleneck. Our Engineers for their skill, dedication and response, often dozens of miles away from base, whatever the time, whatever the day. To our Marketing team Alan, Jake, Jonny and Nathan for getting the stops up and the timetables out, spreading the word with some of the best creative thinking in the business. To Derbyshire County Council’s public transport team especially to Anthony, Janet and Phil, also to Alex for getting the bus stops out on the Snake Pass. To our Operator friends for their kind words of support, proving beyond all doubt that our industry is at its best when we support innovation, our people and most importantly each other. Thank you everyone. We hope you enjoyed the journey.

(10/01/2022 18:49)knutstransport Wrote:  Is there any truth in this: https://twitter.com/sghughes42/status/1480434510588166144

I thought they were required to for off-peak travel for journeys starting in their area, even if any pre-09:30 reimbursement is optional.

(11/01/2022 23:04)Mrboo Wrote:  I seen a post to say they did not even apply for the money they did not put in the paperwork. there would be no reason for Tfgm not to fund but they would also get money from Derbyshire and South Yorkshire so they could of turned the bus at Glossop. it more the Clean Air Zone and having to have buses that are euro 6. they messed up. I posted at start they should of ran from shudehill bus station and could of worked with megabus.

(11/01/2022 23:04)Mrboo Wrote:  I seen a post to say they did not even apply for the money they did not put in the paperwork. there would be no reason for Tfgm not to fund but they would also get money from Derbyshire and South Yorkshire so they could of turned the bus at Glossop. it more the Clean Air Zone and having to have buses that are euro 6. they messed up. I posted at start they should of ran from shudehill bus station and could of worked with megabus.

(20/06/2022 20:08)Mayneway Wrote:  System one isn’t admined by stagecoach, the MD of stagecoach happens to over see S1 as well, and any operator who won’t sell or accept S1 looses all other reimbursements like our pass etc, which is exactly what happened to UK North many moons ago. TFGM refused to give them there last last reimbursement which forced them to close, because of none compliance.

(21/06/2022 18:37)dounowhoiam Wrote:  Seeing this post on a different thread made me think of the short lived X57 and the fact that they didn't support SystemOne tickets (at least when I rang up to ask as I was wanting to use this between Manchester and the Airport whilst the trains were near enough none existent):
http://dartslf.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=95&pid=150410#pid150410


How was it that TfGM let them use Hyde bus station if they didn't accept the multi-modal ticket (if they did go there as tracking at the time only shown drivers sometimes stopping there with me overhearing reports of people waiting), create bus timetables for the route (https://drive.google.com/file/d/12tIEvhqmmEpGoIuSP-Ady6M-oORSAoQP/view?usp=sharing) and label up on TfGM stops (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.4782276,-2.2371817,3a,15y,89.2h,91.06t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s1L4OMqmS_wi1tOBH7rn_Pw!2e0!5s20201101T000000!7i16384!8i​8192)?

Previous posts do state that Hulley's made some poor choices where they did have greater potential - I was gutted that only the once I was able to use it to get to Sheffield where from Glossop it was a very popular bus - to make it a financial success, but then I was also hopeful about the CityZap from Manchester to Leeds (actually taking it twice in it's run) which was also cut.

(21/06/2022 18:37)dounowhoiam Wrote:  Seeing this post on a different thread made me think of the short lived X57 and the fact that they didn't support SystemOne tickets (at least when I rang up to ask as I was wanting to use this between Manchester and the Airport whilst the trains were near enough none existent):
http://dartslf.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=95&pid=150410#pid150410


How was it that TfGM let them use Hyde bus station if they didn't accept the multi-modal ticket (if they did go there as tracking at the time only shown drivers sometimes stopping there with me overhearing reports of people waiting), create bus timetables for the route (https://drive.google.com/file/d/12tIEvhqmmEpGoIuSP-Ady6M-oORSAoQP/view?usp=sharing) and label up on TfGM stops (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.4782276,-2.2371817,3a,15y,89.2h,91.06t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s1L4OMqmS_wi1tOBH7rn_Pw!2e0!5s20201101T000000!7i16384!8i​8192)?

Previous posts do state that Hulley's made some poor choices where they did have greater potential - I was gutted that only the once I was able to use it to get to Sheffield where from Glossop it was a very popular bus - to make it a financial success, but then I was also hopeful about the CityZap from Manchester to Leeds (actually taking it twice in it's run) which was also cut.