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RE: Greater Manchester service changes - bgbus21 - 31/08/2020 12:47

(30/08/2020 21:25)Redmikey Wrote:  In that case both Metro and Yorkshire Tiger are wrong as they have a Sunday 587 down and not an x58. Very confusing!

Spotted the so called "587" today. Running as 1006 YJ62 FBL and displaying X58 and following the X58 route, so what is it meant to be, X58 or 587? Someone's got confused somewhere with TfGM saying its Tigers journeys are X58 and YT displaying X58 on the dests, then Metro saying that Tigers journeys are numbered 587.

RE: Greater Manchester service changes - Mrboo - 01/09/2020 23:59

So Yorkshire tiger have filled paperwork to be 587 but can`t find any info about x58

https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/557898/

RE: Greater Manchester service changes - SF07 - 03/09/2020 17:29

Some proposed changes from the upcoming GMCA Bus Committee meeting, including a new (and regular) bus link between Sheffield and Manchester plus changes to services in Bolton, Salford and North Manchester. Changes are from 25 October 2020 unless stated.
  • 2/21/22 (Diamond): Service 2 between Bolton and intu Trafford Centre to be re-numbered back to 22. Additional journeys will run as service 21 between intu Trafford Centre and Clifton Junction via Eccles, Swinton and Pendlebury to form a 15 minute minute on the route between Trafford Centre and Pendlebury
  • 20/68 (Diamond): Service 68 re-routed to run from Little Hulton to Bolton via Logistics North, St Helens Road, Hulton Lane and Deane Road instead of to Farnworth (part of Better Deal for Bus Users funding - also partly replacing services 551/553). Service re-numbered to 20.
  • 27 (Diamond): Proposed to be withdrawn. Route covered in parts by services 10, 29, 36, 37, 38, 52, 93, 97 and 98
  • 29 (TBC - currently Diamond): Proposed to be re-routed to run between Boothstown and Salford Quays with evening journeys introduced. Service will partly replace service 553 between Boothstown and Walkden and service 73 between Swinton and Lancaster Road
  • 65 (TBC - currently Diamond): Proposed to be re-routed to run between Eccles and Alder Forest via Patricroft. Ellesmere Park to be served by service 70
  • 66 (TBC - currently Diamond): Proposed to be re-routed to run between Eccles and Prestwich, running via 484 route between Pendlebury and Prestwich, no longer serving Clifton Junction, which will be served by new service 21. Evening and Sunday journeys introduced
  • 70 (TBC - currently Diamond): Proposed to be re-routed to run between Eccles and Salford Shopping Centre only but running daily including evenings, partly replacing services 65, 73, 74 and 75.
  • 73 (Diamond): Proposed to be withdrawn and partly replaced by services 29, 70 and 79.
  • 74/75 (TBC - currently Diamond): Proposed to be re-routed to run between Irlams o'th' Heights and Stretford via Duchy Road instead of Eccles Old Road, extending from Salford Shopping Centre to Stretford via 79 route. Evening and Sunday journeys introduced.
  • 79 (Diamond): Proposed to be withdrawn and partly replaced by services 29 and 74/75
  • 90 (Tyrers): Proposed to be withdrawn and replaced by services 66, 94 and 96
  • 91 (Transdev Rosso): Proposed to be withdrawn and replaced by service 512
  • 94 (Stotts): Proposed to be re-routed to run via Heywood Road, Whittaker Lane, Bury Old Road, St Margarets Road and Sandgate Road, partly replacing service 90
  • 95 (TBC - currently Diamond): Sunday service proposed to be reduced to two-hourly but with evening journeys introduced
  • 96 (Go North West): Proposed to be re-routed to run via Heys Road, Fairfax Road and Bury New Road (re-routed via Prestwich), partly replacing service 90 from 25 October 2020
  • 113 (Stagecoach Lancs): Re-routed to serve Wigan Infirmary "(this change formalises the COVID-19 emergency timetable which has been in operation since early June) " from 1 October 2020
  • 126/132 (Diamond): Early weekday mornings introduced, as part of Better Deal for Bus Users funding
  • 335 (Stotts): Proposed to be re-routed to run via 345 loop around Denton, following the introduction of service 305 this week.
  • 345 (Stagecoach): Proposed to terminate at Denton Crown Point instead of running a loop around Denton, which will be served by service 335.
  • 397 (North Western): New Monday-Saturday daytime service between Hyde and Glossop via Hattersley, Mottram, Tintwistle and Hadfield
  • 484 (Arriva): Proposed to be withdrawn and replaced by re-routed service 66
  • 492 (Tyrers): New Monday-Saturday daytime service running between Bury and Pilsworth, providing a direct link between the two (service 92 runs evenings only)
  • 512 (TBC - currently Tyrers): Proposed to be re-routed to run between Bury and Farnworth only and to run via Ainsworth, Bradley Fold between Bury and Radcliffe, replacing service 91 and via Prestolee replacing service 557. Ringley Bridge will be served by service 513, while Farnworth-Royal Bolton Hospital is covered by services 22 and 501. Evening and Sunday journeys introduced from 25 October 2020
  • 513 (TBC - currently Tyrers): Proposed to be re-routed to run via Ringley Bridge, replacing service 512 but no longer servie Ringley Fold, which is served by re-routed service 557.
  • 551/553 (Vision Bus): Not mentioned but changes to services 20 and 29 suggests these services will either be withdrawn or curtailed.
  • 557 (Tyrers): Proposed to be re-routed to run between Ringley Fold and Royal Bolton Hospital via Farnworth, partly replacing services 512 and 513 and only run during weekday off-peak period
  • 576 (Diamond): Proposed to be withdrawn and replaced by service 575 (operator TBC) running between Bolton and Wigan via Old Lords Estate in Horwich instead of via Middlebrook.
  • 584 (Diamond): The first weekday journey is withdrawn. TfGM looking for replacement.
  • 607 (TBC - currently Hattons): Proposed to be re-routed to run as local service around Ashton-in-Makerfield, providing connections with services to Wigan
  • 682 (Diamond): Service extended from Hag Fold to Tyldesley via Atherton and Shakerley replacing Diamond service 683 and Tyrers service 694
  • 683 (Diamond): Service withdrawn and replaced by extended service 682
  • 694 (Tyrers): Proposed to be re-routed to run between Leigh and Tyldesley only with Shakerley served by service 682. Saturday journeys re-routed via Platts Fold Road, replacing service 597
  • 715 (TBC - currently Warrington's Own Buses): Evening and Sunday service proposed to be re-routed to run between Bolton and Westhoughton only, in line with Diamond's Monday-Saturday daytime service.
  • B3 (Transdev Rosso) and 494 (Tyrers): Service B3 will be taken over by Tyrers during Monday-Saturday daytime and re-numbered 494. Probable that Arriva's Sunday service will be re-numbered back to 494 too.
  • X57 (Hulleys of Baslow): New daily commercial service between Sheffield and Manchester, running every two hours via Ladybower, Glossop and Hollingworth, only serving Hollingworth Gun Inn between Glossop and Manchester. Service includes late evening journeys on Fridays and Saturdays

https://democracy.greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk/documents/s9325/Forthcoming%20Changes%20to%20Bus%20Network%20-%20Part%20A.pdf

RE: Greater Manchester service changes - Citibus - 03/09/2020 20:50

Astley to lose its links with Bolton again?

looks like the 597 is going to be withdrawn looking at the 694 entry

RE: Greater Manchester service changes - T42 PVM - 03/09/2020 23:01

(03/09/2020 17:29)SF07 Wrote:  Some proposed changes from the upcoming GMCA Bus Committee meeting, including a new (and regular) bus link between Sheffield and Manchester plus changes to services in Bolton, Salford and North Manchester. Changes are from 25 October 2020 unless stated.
  • 2/21/22 (Diamond): Service 2 between Bolton and intu Trafford Centre to be re-numbered back to 22. Additional journeys will run as service 21 between intu Trafford Centre and Clifton Junction via Eccles, Swinton and Pendlebury to form a 15 minute minute on the route between Trafford Centre and Pendlebury
  • 20/68 (Diamond): Service 68 re-routed to run from Little Hulton to Bolton via Logistics North, St Helens Road, Hulton Lane and Deane Road instead of to Farnworth (part of Better Deal for Bus Users funding - also partly replacing services 551/553). Service re-numbered to 20.
  • 27 (Diamond): Proposed to be withdrawn. Route covered in parts by services 10, 29, 36, 37, 38, 52, 93, 97 and 98
  • 29 (TBC - currently Diamond): Proposed to be re-routed to run between Boothstown and Salford Quays with evening journeys introduced. Service will partly replace service 553 between Boothstown and Walkden and service 73 between Swinton and Lancaster Road
  • 65 (TBC - currently Diamond): Proposed to be re-routed to run between Eccles and Alder Forest via Patricroft. Ellesmere Park to be served by service 70
  • 66 (TBC - currently Diamond): Proposed to be re-routed to run between Eccles and Prestwich, running via 484 route between Pendlebury and Prestwich, no longer serving Clifton Junction, which will be served by new service 21. Evening and Sunday journeys introduced
  • 70 (TBC - currently Diamond): Proposed to be re-routed to run between Eccles and Salford Shopping Centre only but running daily including evenings, partly replacing services 65, 73, 74 and 75.
  • 73 (Diamond): Proposed to be withdrawn and partly replaced by services 29, 70 and 79.
  • 74/75 (TBC - currently Diamond): Proposed to be re-routed to run between Irlams o'th' Heights and Stretford via Duchy Road instead of Eccles Old Road, extending from Salford Shopping Centre to Stretford via 79 route. Evening and Sunday journeys introduced.
  • 79 (Diamond): Proposed to be withdrawn and partly replaced by services 29 and 74/75
  • 90 (Tyrers): Proposed to be withdrawn and replaced by services 66, 94 and 96
  • 91 (Transdev Rosso): Proposed to be withdrawn and replaced by service 512
  • 94 (Stotts): Proposed to be re-routed to run via Heywood Road, Whittaker Lane, Bury Old Road, St Margarets Road and Sandgate Road, partly replacing service 90
  • 95 (TBC - currently Diamond): Sunday service proposed to be reduced to two-hourly but with evening journeys introduced
  • 96 (Go North West): Proposed to be re-routed to run via Heys Road, Fairfax Road and Bury New Road (re-routed via Prestwich), partly replacing service 90 from 25 October 2020
  • 113 (Stagecoach Lancs): Re-routed to serve Wigan Infirmary "(this change formalises the COVID-19 emergency timetable which has been in operation since early June) " from 1 October 2020
  • 126/132 (Diamond): Early weekday mornings introduced, as part of Better Deal for Bus Users funding
  • 335 (Stotts): Proposed to be re-routed to run via 345 loop around Denton, following the introduction of service 305 this week.
  • 345 (Stagecoach): Proposed to terminate at Denton Crown Point instead of running a loop around Denton, which will be served by service 335.
  • 397 (North Western): New Monday-Saturday daytime service between Hyde and Glossop via Hattersley, Mottram, Tintwistle and Hadfield
  • 484 (Arriva): Proposed to be withdrawn and replaced by re-routed service 66
  • 492 (Tyrers): New Monday-Saturday daytime service running between Bury and Pilsworth, providing a direct link between the two (service 92 runs evenings only)
  • 512 (TBC - currently Tyrers): Proposed to be re-routed to run between Bury and Farnworth only and to run via Ainsworth, Bradley Fold between Bury and Radcliffe, replacing service 91 and via Prestolee replacing service 557. Ringley Bridge will be served by service 513, while Farnworth-Royal Bolton Hospital is covered by services 22 and 501. Evening and Sunday journeys introduced from 25 October 2020
  • 513 (TBC - currently Tyrers): Proposed to be re-routed to run via Ringley Bridge, replacing service 512 but no longer servie Ringley Fold, which is served by re-routed service 557.
  • 551/553 (Vision Bus): Not mentioned but changes to services 20 and 29 suggests these services will either be withdrawn or curtailed.
  • 557 (Tyrers): Proposed to be re-routed to run between Ringley Fold and Royal Bolton Hospital via Farnworth, partly replacing services 512 and 513 and only run during weekday off-peak period
  • 576 (Diamond): Proposed to be withdrawn and replaced by service 575 (operator TBC) running between Bolton and Wigan via Old Lords Estate in Horwich instead of via Middlebrook.
  • 584 (Diamond): The first weekday journey is withdrawn. TfGM looking for replacement.
  • 607 (TBC - currently Hattons): Proposed to be re-routed to run as local service around Ashton-in-Makerfield, providing connections with services to Wigan
  • 682 (Diamond): Service extended from Hag Fold to Tyldesley via Atherton and Shakerley replacing Diamond service 683 and Tyrers service 694
  • 683 (Diamond): Service withdrawn and replaced by extended service 682
  • 694 (Tyrers): Proposed to be re-routed to run between Leigh and Tyldesley only with Shakerley served by service 682. Saturday journeys re-routed via Platts Fold Road, replacing service 597
  • 715 (TBC - currently Warrington's Own Buses): Evening and Sunday service proposed to be re-routed to run between Bolton and Westhoughton only, in line with Diamond's Monday-Saturday daytime service.
  • B3 (Transdev Rosso) and 494 (Tyrers): Service B3 will be taken over by Tyrers during Monday-Saturday daytime and re-numbered 494. Probable that Arriva's Sunday service will be re-numbered back to 494 too.
  • X57 (Hulleys of Baslow): New daily commercial service between Sheffield and Manchester, running every two hours via Ladybower, Glossop and Hollingworth, only serving Hollingworth Gun Inn between Glossop and Manchester. Service includes late evening journeys on Fridays and Saturdays

https://democracy.greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk/documents/s9325/Forthcoming%20Changes%20to%20Bus%20Network%20-%20Part%20A.pdf

The 607 is Currently operated by Diamond, Only the 613 in Wigan is operated by Hattons

RE: Greater Manchester service changes - Valandil - 04/09/2020 03:05

(03/09/2020 23:01)T42 PVM Wrote:  The 607 is Currently operated by Diamond, Only the 613 in Wigan is operated by Hattons

Just about the 613, Warrington are doing the 613 at 07:23 from New Springs to Wigan at 07:45.

RE: Greater Manchester service changes - M60lad - 04/09/2020 06:01

Some interesting changes in the list especially with Diamond making their mark on services round North Manchester.

The only other change that's interesting is Hulley's of Baslow running a Sheffield-Manchester service, the last time Hulley's ran a service to/from Manchester was when they had the Chesterfield-Manchester X67 service which doesn't run anymore.

The X57 will be an interesting service as it looks like its going to run direct to Sheffield via A57 which is something a service bus hasn't done for a while and the Snake Pass (Road) is a scenic route whatever the weather.

RE: Greater Manchester service changes - Mayneway - 04/09/2020 10:54

North western which began running the 236 (Ashton-Glossop) using a pair of former Halton Transport Darts has already run into difficulties and have stopped operating. It doesn’t look good for their other planned routes 397 and 305.

https://www.questmedianetwork.co.uk/news/glossop-chronicle/new-236-bus-has-stopped-running/

RE: Greater Manchester service changes - 33109 - 04/09/2020 23:30

Not surprising that arriva are dropping the 484 eccles - prestwich.

It's a long route that & it doesn't seem to attract many punters.

RE: Greater Manchester service changes - M60lad - 05/09/2020 04:57

Won't the Traffic Commisioner have something to say about Northwestern(GB Coaches) suddenly stopping operating their 236 route? I know its been registered commercialy but the route is meant to run surely unless they've let the Traffic Commisioner know.