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RE: Northern Rail - T42 PVM - 08/11/2015 12:20
Its not even on Northerns Journey planner, very poor indeed
RE: Northern Rail - Sprinterdriver - 08/11/2015 18:41
(07/11/2015 09:57)knutstransport Wrote: From my experience most passengers going between Liverpool and Manchester still choose to use the TPE and EMT services via Warrington. While most Liverpool-Manchester Airport services were 2 car 156s, there were a lot of 4 car 156 workings between Liverpool and Wigan so on those services a 319 is less spacious (80m of train length instead of 92m) and less comfortable (3+2 seating without tables or arm rests.)
The Chat Moss services are very busy. The 0712 and 0812 TPE to Man Vic leave Lime St most mornings full and standing.
When it was a 156, the 07:15 Lime St to Manchester Airport had standing passengers from Wavertree, if it was anything other than a 156 then on occasion people were left behind at Newton.
The seats in the 319's are the same that the 156's had in when new. They are called Ashbourne seats. The Ex FNW 156's have Chapman seats and the ex ATN 156's have Richmond seats.
While 4 car DMU workings were common, two 156's wasn't that common as there were problems with platform lengths at places like Thatto Heath and Garswood.
SD.
RE: Northern Rail - Sprinterdriver - 08/11/2015 18:42
(08/11/2015 12:20)T42 PVM Wrote: Its not even on Northerns Journey planner, very poor indeed
Probably because they were short term planned (STP), they are on Realtime Trains.
SD.
RE: Northern Rail - childwallblues - 09/11/2015 08:07
On Saturday night the 2007 Leeds to Ilkley was worked by 322483 vice a 333.
RE: Northern Rail - knutstransport - 09/11/2015 16:54
(08/11/2015 18:41)Sprinterdriver Wrote: The seats in the 319's are the same that the 156's had in when new. They are called Ashbourne seats. The Ex FNW 156's have Chapman seats and the ex ATN 156's have Richmond seats.
Not sure of the relevance of that. Northern haven't used any 156s with the original interiors in Merseyside since the franchise started.
These: http://www.southernelectric.org.uk/features/liveries/319/img/gbee319363dtsoint_mia090315.jpg may be the same type of seats as these: http://www.scot-rail.co.uk/photo/scaled/511.jpg but the latter is more comfortable due to being 2+2 seating with tables and armrests.
RE: Northern Rail - Sprinterdriver - 09/11/2015 23:11
I had in my mind that someone had made a comment that the seats in a 319 and 156 are the same, sorry for the confusion.
SD.
RE: Northern Rail - St Helens Rider - 10/11/2015 15:59
Due to a fatality at Thatto Heath, trains are diverted between Wigan and Huyton.
RE: Northern Rail - T42 PVM - 10/11/2015 19:00
All back to normal now
RE: Northern Rail - St Helens Rider - 10/11/2015 19:15
what didn't help was there was a problem with the information screens as well at the time.
RE: Northern Rail - wirralbus - 10/11/2015 19:49
Northern has been struggling with the information systems for a few days off and on now .