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RE: Stagecoach North East - kuyoyo - 23/02/2013 18:29
36-branded MAN Enviro300 24101 was used on the 59/61 this morning before being replaced by 37-branded 22066. 24101 then went onto the 12/34.
Olympian 16831/4 were on the 12/14/34 all day while 16838 turned up later in the day. 16839 was on the 35 while 16836/40 were on the 52/58 and 16832 was on the 13.
RE: Stagecoach North East - kuyoyo - 23/02/2013 20:06
(23/02/2013 18:29)kuyoyo Wrote: 36-branded MAN Enviro300 24101 was used on the 59/61 this morning before being replaced by 37-branded 22066. 24101 then went onto the 12/34.
Olympian 16831/4 were on the 12/14/34 all day while 16838 turned up later in the day. 16839 was on the 35 while 16836/40 were on the 52/58 and 16832 was on the 13.
24101 on the 12
22066 on the 59
RE: Stagecoach North East - kuyoyo - 25/02/2013 00:01
Some interesting news has just been revealled regarding a surprising trip for one of Stockton's Olympians.
On Friday night, 16840 worked the M35 from Norton to Newcastle replacing a broken-down Astromega. It then worked the 0535 M35 from Newcastle as far as Middlesbrough where the Astromega replaced it.
And here is 16840 in Walkergate depot on Friday night Photo @ ADL Enviro
RE: Stagecoach North East - sndriver - 25/02/2013 10:47
(25/02/2013 00:01)kuyoyo Wrote: Some interesting news has just been revealled regarding a surprising trip for one of Stockton's Olympians.
On Friday night, 16840 worked the M35 from Norton to Newcastle replacing a broken-down Astromega. It then worked the 0535 M35 from Newcastle as far as Middlesbrough where the Astromega replaced it.
And here is 16840 in Walkergate depot on Friday night Photo @ ADL Enviro
That's very naughty. These are not 'in scope' for tachograph usage!
Appreciating a non-tachograph vehicle can legally replace a failed tachograph vehicle to complete the journey to Newcastle (as the journey had started with a tacho vehicle), it certainly cannot legally go back out next morning to start a journey... regardless of if it was to be swapped over at Middlesbrough! Should have a been a tachograph fitted vehicle to do the 'feed' the next day, as commencing a journey without a tacho vehicle is not an 'emergency'.
EU legislation out of the window!
RE: Stagecoach North East - kuyoyo - 25/02/2013 10:57
(25/02/2013 10:47)sndriver Wrote:(25/02/2013 00:01)kuyoyo Wrote: Some interesting news has just been revealled regarding a surprising trip for one of Stockton's Olympians.
On Friday night, 16840 worked the M35 from Norton to Newcastle replacing a broken-down Astromega. It then worked the 0535 M35 from Newcastle as far as Middlesbrough where the Astromega replaced it.
And here is 16840 in Walkergate depot on Friday night Photo @ ADL Enviro
That's very naughty. These are not 'in scope' for tachograph usage!
Appreciating a non-tachograph vehicle can legally replace a failed tachograph vehicle to complete the journey to Newcastle (as the journey had started with a tacho vehicle), it certainly cannot legally go back out next morning to start a journey... regardless of if it was to be swapped over at Middlesbrough! Should have a been a tachograph fitted vehicle to do the 'feed' the next day, as commencing a journey without a tacho vehicle is not an 'emergency'.
EU legislation out of the window!
Problem is, Stockton sent 16840 north because the Olympians are our only deckers. So, you then end up with one of Walkergate's Tacho-fitted Enviro400s working the southbound journey. Which would then mean Stockton would have to send one of its Spare drivers up to Walkergate with that to get 16840. So, while they did break EU regulation, they made things easier for themsleves.
RE: Stagecoach North East - rachel - 25/02/2013 12:39
I think that why stagecoach on teesside sould have some Enviro400s at has will has olympians double deackers even 2 Enviro400s will done.
RE: Stagecoach North East - sndriver - 25/02/2013 13:19
(25/02/2013 10:57)kuyoyo Wrote:(25/02/2013 10:47)sndriver Wrote:(25/02/2013 00:01)kuyoyo Wrote: Some interesting news has just been revealled regarding a surprising trip for one of Stockton's Olympians.
On Friday night, 16840 worked the M35 from Norton to Newcastle replacing a broken-down Astromega. It then worked the 0535 M35 from Newcastle as far as Middlesbrough where the Astromega replaced it.
And here is 16840 in Walkergate depot on Friday night Photo @ ADL Enviro
That's very naughty. These are not 'in scope' for tachograph usage!
Appreciating a non-tachograph vehicle can legally replace a failed tachograph vehicle to complete the journey to Newcastle (as the journey had started with a tacho vehicle), it certainly cannot legally go back out next morning to start a journey... regardless of if it was to be swapped over at Middlesbrough! Should have a been a tachograph fitted vehicle to do the 'feed' the next day, as commencing a journey without a tacho vehicle is not an 'emergency'.
EU legislation out of the window!
Problem is, Stockton sent 16840 north because the Olympians are our only deckers. So, you then end up with one of Walkergate's Tacho-fitted Enviro400s working the southbound journey. Which would then mean Stockton would have to send one of its Spare drivers up to Walkergate with that to get 16840. So, while they did break EU regulation, they made things easier for themsleves.
Completely understand that.
But 'making life easier' for themselves would not stand up in court!
Mind you, all of the major operators have done it, although maybe not quite as obvious as that!
RE: Stagecoach North East - kuyoyo - 25/02/2013 20:57
MAN Enviro300 24107 was on the 35 this afternoon replacing an Olympian. 16840 replaced 22658 on Middlesrough area services this morning after 22658 broke down.
RE: Stagecoach North East - WhiteVanMan - 25/02/2013 22:23
(25/02/2013 13:19)sndriver Wrote:(25/02/2013 10:57)kuyoyo Wrote:(25/02/2013 10:47)sndriver Wrote: That's very naughty. These are not 'in scope' for tachograph usage!
Appreciating a non-tachograph vehicle can legally replace a failed tachograph vehicle to complete the journey to Newcastle (as the journey had started with a tacho vehicle), it certainly cannot legally go back out next morning to start a journey... regardless of if it was to be swapped over at Middlesbrough! Should have a been a tachograph fitted vehicle to do the 'feed' the next day, as commencing a journey without a tacho vehicle is not an 'emergency'.
EU legislation out of the window!
Problem is, Stockton sent 16840 north because the Olympians are our only deckers. So, you then end up with one of Walkergate's Tacho-fitted Enviro400s working the southbound journey. Which would then mean Stockton would have to send one of its Spare drivers up to Walkergate with that to get 16840. So, while they did break EU regulation, they made things easier for themsleves.
Completely understand that.
But 'making life easier' for themselves would not stand up in court!
Mind you, all of the major operators have done it, although maybe not quite as obvious as that!
A non-tacho fitted vehicle maybe used on tacho related work. but the driver(s) Must complete a tachograph chart manually.
RE: Stagecoach North East - kuyoyo - 26/02/2013 20:20
Olympian 16837 was on the 12/14/34 this morning, 16839 was on the 52/58 while 16840 covered a 36 between Middlesbrough and Park End.