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Arriva network following takeover of MTL (April 2000) - Walton 46 - 22/08/2020 10:12
In April 2000, two months after the takeover of MTL, Arriva introduced a revised network in Merseyside with many routes being chopped, withdrawn or renumbered. Here's a rough guide to the Arriva Network in Liverpool as of the 25th April 2000. I don't have any details for Southport, St. Helens or the Wirral, so if anyone can fill me in, that will be great
(...) = previous number
1/1X City Centre - Kirkby
2 City Centre - Kirkby
3 City Centre - Kirkby
4 City Centre - Kirkby
5 City Centre - Kirkby
6 City Centre - Huyton
8/8D City Centre - Huyton
9 - City Centre - Huyton
10/10A - City Centre - St Helens - Earlestown
11- City Centre - Stockbridge Village - Prescot
12/13 City Centre - Stockbridge Village
14 City Centre - Croxteth
14A City Centre - Kirkby Admin
15 (75) City Centre - Huyton
17 Formby - Banks
17B City Centre - Broadway
17C/17D City Centre - Fazakerley
18A City Centre - Croxteth Park
18C City Centre - Fazakerley
19 City Centre - Tower Hill
19B City Centre - Northwood
19C City Centre - Kirkby Admin
19E City Centre - Gilmoss
20 Aigburth Vale - Tower Hill
26/27 Sheil Road Circulars
30 City Centre - Netherton
32 City Centre - Runcorn
40 City Centre - Huyton
44/45/54/54A Bootle - Litherland
49/49A Broadgreen Hospital - St. Helens
50 (90) City Centre - Crosby
51 (91) City Centre - Waterloo
52/52A (82/82A) City Centre - Netherton
53 (86) City Centre - Thornton
53C (86A) City Centre - Crosby
55 City Centre - Old Roan
55A City Centre - Netherton
55B - Bootle - Netherton
56 City Centre - Netherton
57 (137) City Centre - Crosby Hall Road
60 Bootle - Aigburth Vale
61/61A Bootle - Aigburth Vale
62 (92) Crosby - Penny Lane
68 Bootle - Aigburth Vale
73 (33) City Centre - Halewood
73A (33A) City Centre - Allerton
75 (35) City Centre - Halewood
78 City Centre - Halewood
78A (38) City Centre - Halewood
79 City Centre - Netherley
79A City Centre - Lee park
79C/79D City Centre - Netherley
80 City Centre - Speke
80A City Centre - Airport
81 Bootle - Speke
82 City Centre - Speke
82A City Centre - Garston
86 City Centre - Garston
89 Speke - St Helens
90 Kirkby - St Helens
217 City Centre - Halewood
284 City Centre - Southport
300 City Centre - Southport
311 City Centre - Holborn Hill - Ormskirk
345 City Centre - Skelmersdale
351 City Centre - Town Green - Ormskirk
Withdrawn services:
14B City Centre - Gilmoss
18 City Centre - Crosby
86A City Centre - Garston
210/210X City Centre - Huyton
212/212X City Centre - Huyton
255 City Centre - Netherton
258 Stockbridge Village - Prescot
261/262 City Centre - Huyton
274/275 City Centre - Huyton
350 City Centre - Maghull
X8 City Centre - Southport
RE: Arriva network following takeover of MTL (April 2000) - Raawwwrrr! - 22/08/2020 19:30
X5 / X5A Liverpool to Runcorn Murdishaw
H5 Liverpool to Warrington
The merseytravel Smart services 1 and 4/5
RE: Arriva network following takeover of MTL (April 2000) - MTL0201 - 22/08/2020 20:29
I'm sure after the Arrive revised network it was, the 18 became the 50, 90 was withdrawn, as the 50 served Endbutt Lane via the 18, 90 went via Chesterfield Road, the 17 Formby-Banks was extended to Liverpool to replace X8, or 284 increased in frequency, the 210 became 10B, the Merseytravel smart service 1 was replaced by the 11, with the 11 City-Huyton withdrawn.
It was around this time the 300 was increased to every 30 minutes with 302 withdrawn.
RE: Arriva network following takeover of MTL (April 2000) - MTL0201 - 22/08/2020 20:46
Wirral network
10B New Brighton-Parkgate withdrawn, partly replaced by the 487.
10C was withdrawn with 1 renumbered to 401, extended to Chester as replacement, some of the V***ENC ALX300 DAFs were transferred to this service
6 New Brighton-Woodside withdrawn
The rest of the Arriva Wirral network was renumbered to 4xx series
3/3A/3B becoming 403/413/423
7/7A/8/8A Woodside-New Brighton became 405/406/407/408, with 407/408 through to Liverpool as part replacement of the original 407/408 which went Overchurch Road-Liverpool
410/411 Liverpool-Bromborough was withdrawn
St Helens network stayed the same until 2006 network review, i think most of the Southport network stayed the same until 2006 too
RE: Arriva network following takeover of MTL (April 2000) - bootlelad2015 - 23/08/2020 01:58
(22/08/2020 20:29)MTL0201 Wrote: I'm sure after the Arrive revised network it was, the 18 became the 50, 90 was withdrawn, as the 50 served Endbutt Lane via the 18, 90 went via Chesterfield Road, the 17 Formby-Banks was extended to Liverpool to replace X8, or 284 increased in frequency, the 210 became 10B, the Merseytravel smart service 1 was replaced by the 11, with the 11 City-Huyton withdrawn.
It was around this time the 300 was increased to every 30 minutes with 302 withdrawn.
You're slightly incorrect here.
18 was simply withdrawn, but the 57 diverted via Kingsway & Endbutt Lane to compensate, the 50 was a straight forward renumbering of the 90
17 wasn't extended to replace the X8, however upon Southport review did become 47. The 284 & 57 eventually combined to become 48 before various extensions etc resulted in 47/48/48A grouping eventually resulting in the now 47
RE: Arriva network following takeover of MTL (April 2000) - MTL0201 - 23/08/2020 04:16
(23/08/2020 01:58)bootlelad2015 Wrote: You're slightly incorrect here.
18 was simply withdrawn, but the 57 diverted via Kingsway & Endbutt Lane to compensate, the 50 was a straight forward renumbering of the 90
17 wasn't extended to replace the X8, however upon Southport review did become 47. The 284 & 57 eventually combined to become 48 before various extensions etc resulted in 47/48/48A grouping eventually resulting in the now 47
Thank's for clearing those up.
I thought the 18 became 50.
Did the 284 get a frequency increase to cover for the withdrawn X8, until the Southport review?
One of the Liverpool-Ormskirk routes was diverted in Maghull to partly replace the 350, may have been 351
As i've said the 210 was renumbered to 10B, with the rest of the former Liverbus network withdrawn
RE: Arriva network following takeover of MTL (April 2000) - Metroline1511 - 23/08/2020 12:40
(22/08/2020 19:30)Raawwwrrr! Wrote: X5 / X5A Liverpool to Runcorn Murdishaw
H5 Liverpool to Warrington
The merseytravel Smart services 1 and 4/5
I have the feeling North Western ran Plaxton Verde saloons on route X5. Not sure which chassis tho.
RE: Arriva network following takeover of MTL (April 2000) - MTL0201 - 23/08/2020 12:58
(23/08/2020 12:40)Metroline1511 Wrote: I have the feeling North Western ran Plaxton Verde saloons on route X5. Not sure which chassis tho.
It was Dennis Lance chassis
https://www.flickr.com/photos/43911105@N00/13299931505/
I remember them at Bootle, some were allocated to the X8 after the X8 was split to become Liverpool-Banks.
RE: Arriva network following takeover of MTL (April 2000) - Raawwwrrr! - 24/08/2020 07:11
(22/08/2020 20:29)MTL0201 Wrote: I'm sure after the Arrive revised network it was, the 18 became the 50, 90 was withdrawn, as the 50 served Endbutt Lane via the 18, 90 went via Chesterfield Road, the 17 Formby-Banks was extended to Liverpool to replace X8, or 284 increased in frequency, the 210 became 10B, the Merseytravel smart service 1 was replaced by the 11, with the 11 City-Huyton withdrawn.
It was around this time the 300 was increased to every 30 minutes with 302 withdrawn.
That’s incorrect.
The 1 wasn’t replaced by the 11 until around 2006 at which point the 4/4a replaced the 100/200 Dingle Mount Circular. The 11 that replaced the 1 was just the Broadgreen to Liverpool section with the 82A covering Liverpool to Aigburth Vale.
The original 11 was City to Huyton/Prescot via Woolfall Heath/Bluebell and operated by ex- London Plaxton Pointer Darts and was later replaced by the 21 Stockbridge to Prescot (later Huyton)
The 210 became the 8D prior to 10B and would have been changed to this around 2001. Residents found the number confusing assuming it operated via Woolfall Heath and Longview.
RE: Arriva network following takeover of MTL (April 2000) - MTL0201 - 24/08/2020 15:26
(24/08/2020 07:11)Raawwwrrr! Wrote: That’s incorrect.
The 1 wasn’t replaced by the 11 until around 2006 at which point the 4/4a replaced the 100/200 Dingle Mount Circular. The 11 that replaced the 1 was just the Broadgreen to Liverpool section with the 82A covering Liverpool to Aigburth Vale.
The original 11 was City to Huyton/Prescot via Woolfall Heath/Bluebell and operated by ex- London Plaxton Pointer Darts and was later replaced by the 21 Stockbridge to Prescot (later Huyton)
The 210 became the 8D prior to 10B and would have been changed to this around 2001. Residents found the number confusing assuming it operated via Woolfall Heath and Longview.
My 1999 Liverpool map shows an 8D Liverpool-Huyton evening & Sundays only, operated by Merseybus over the 210 route, 210 had an evening & Sunday service too which is bizarre as they were both operated by Merseybus on the same route, but the 8D went to Huyton Station with 210 to Elizabeth Road