West Midlands Trains - WMR & LNR

[knutstransport]

RE: West Midlands Trains - WMR & LNR

(19/12/2025 17:21)Gordon V Wrote:  It's not a sudden thing they've gone,they were always planned to finish on the Liverpool route at the start of the December timetable change.

Weekdays the 1933 Liverpool-Birmingham is 8 car.

I knew they were temporary, but the original announcement from the operator referred to the 730s entering service to allow the 350/2s to be withdrawn, and leaving the Liverpool route once the southern depots had been trained on the 730s. But the MD did talk about doubled up 350s for Liverpool and said doubled up 730s wouldn't work on that route.

[Gordon V]

RE: West Midlands Trains - WMR & LNR

(19/12/2025 17:29)knutstransport Wrote:  I knew they were temporary, but the original announcement from the operator referred to the 730s entering service to allow the 350/2s to be withdrawn, and leaving the Liverpool route once the southern depots had been trained on the 730s. But the MD did talk about doubled up 350s for Liverpool and said doubled up 730s wouldn't work on that route.

Don't know how long ago that announcement was but it's been known since at least September this year that at the timetable change the 730s would move off the Liverpool to Birmingham route.

[Metroline1511]

RE: West Midlands Trains - WMR & LNR
I rode my first 730 on Thursday, from London Euston to Crewe.

It was a double-unit train. I sat near the front where there was still plenty of space.

[wirralbus]

RE: West Midlands Trains - WMR & LNR
Winsford wasnt too short for even a four car 350.

[knutstransport]

RE: West Midlands Trains - WMR & LNR

(Yesterday 21:55)wirralbus Wrote:  Winsford wasnt too short for even a four car 350.

The 350s have 1/3 and 2/3 doors and shorter carriages, so all the passenger doors all fit on if the train stops in the right place. With the 730s it's front 3 carriages and only one set in the fourth carriage.