Greater Manchester Tenders

[Mayneway]

RE: Greater Manchester Tenders

(08/02/2017 21:07)Dentonian Wrote:  What makes you so sure the contract will be renewed? - same goes for Stockport's. And apart from a small transfer of staff, who would notice (or care) who the Operator is?

There hardly interesting services. Free buses using the same bland boring hybrids day in day out. Having said that IF the Stockport contract does get renewed I hope MCT don't get it again after the fiasco a few months ago when statgcoach had to be draughted in to prop things up.

[joe_alker]

RE: Greater Manchester Tenders
https://www.gmcameetings.co.uk/meetings/...-committee

Looks like massive changes coming in April...

[Mayneway]

RE: Greater Manchester Tenders
What’s the oldest age vehicle that can be used on a general TFGM tender currently?? I’ve had conflicting answers hence me posting here

[acocker96]

RE: Greater Manchester Tenders

(08/06/2019 17:11)Mayneway Wrote:  What’s the oldest age vehicle that can be used on a general TFGM tender currently?? I’ve had conflicting answers hence me posting here

It’s 16 I believe

[Paul_Turner]

RE: Greater Manchester Tenders

(08/06/2019 17:11)Mayneway Wrote:  What’s the oldest age vehicle that can be used on a general TFGM tender currently?? I’ve had conflicting answers hence me posting here

The age limit is 15, but it's measured at 1st September each year so at the moment anything 53 reg or newer is permitted, but 53 and 04 reg buses will be non complaint from Sept.

[Mayneway]

RE: Greater Manchester Tenders

(08/06/2019 18:00)Paul_Turner Wrote:  The age limit is 15, but it's measured at 1st September each year so at the moment anything 53 reg or newer is permitted, but 53 and 04 reg buses will be non complaint from Sept.

Cheers Paul I was told it was 10 and 12.
That clears that up.

[T42 PVM (Moderator)]

RE: Greater Manchester Tenders
A lot of changes coming up in Greater Manchester over the next few months:

31st October 2021

607/608 Ashton In Makerfield Circulars
Hattons Travel had won this Tendered Service however pulled out before starting operating it due to a Driver Shortage, No replacement operator could be found that was value for money so the Service was withdrawn on the mentioned date

30th January:

516 Horwich - Leigh (Diamond Bus)
Service re-routed to serve Brazley

570 & 574 Bolton Circular via Sutton Estate & Markland Hill (Vision Bus)
Services will operate as Circular Services going via Sutton Estate and Markland Hill, Service 570 is renumbered 573.

577 Bolton - Blackrod (Vision Bus)
Service Withdrawn

24th April

1 Bolton - Blackburn (Operator TBC)
Tendered Trips between Bolton and Egerton introduced departing Bolton and 22:50 and 23:35, Sunday Evening trips are also introduced from Bolton from 18:50 until 23:55

12/12A Middleton - Middleton Junction Circulars (Stagecoach)
These Services are withdrawn and replaced by Service R7

44 Manchester - Wythenshawe Hospital (Selwyns & Operator TBC)
The route is changed after Withington to operate via a Mauldeth Road Parrs Wood Road to East Didsbury then via Wilmslow Road and Barlow Moor Road and back onto current route at Wythenshawe Hospital, The Service is extended to Altrincham via the current 288 Bus Route

125 Middleton - Heywood (Operator TBC)
The Service is totally changed going via Rochdale Road, Hollin Lane, Langley Lane, Birch,
Manchester Road and Heywood, Service will operate Mon - Sat Daytime

129 Middleton - Boarshaw Circular (Go North West, Stotts & Stagecoach)
The route is changed to go Via Boarshaw Road,
Stanyclyffe Lane, Rochdale Road, Nowell Road, Whalley Road, Tintern Road, Hopwood Road, Nowell Road, Rochdale Road, Stanyclyffe Lane, Acresfield Road/Guildford Road, Stanyclyffe Lane and Boarshaw Road, The Service will operate Hourly in the Daytime and 2 hourly of an evening

156 Manchester Shudehill - Middleton (Stagecoach)
The Sunday Daytime Service is increased to half hourly

184 Oldham - Huddersfield (First)
Evening and Sunday Service between Oldham and Grotton is Withdrawn

247 Altrincham - The Trafford Centre (Arriva)
Funded trip from Altrincham to the Trafford Centre Introduced at 04:36

288 East Didsbury to Manchester Airport (Little Gem)
Service is cut back to operate between Altrincham and Manchester Airport only, Monday to Saturday Daytime Service is hourly with a 2 hourly evening and Sunday Service.

356 Oldham - Ashton Under Lyne (Nexus Move)
The main Mon - Sat Daytime Service remains hourly but will divert every 2 hours to serve Carr Hill Road, The Evening Service will operate every 2 hours and the Sunday Service Hourly

364 Stockport - Offerton Circular (Stotts)
Operation of this Service is reduced, Service starts at 08:30 and finishes at 16:40, Service remains hourly

374 Stockport - Grove Circular (Stagecoach)
2 Hourly Evening and Sunday Service is introduced

375 Stockport - Mellor (Selwyns/Operator TBC)
2 hourly Evening and Sunday Service introduced between Stockport and Hawk Green

382 Stockport - Woodley (Selwyns (Operator TBC)
Service starts at 09:00 instead of 08:36

402 Derker - Royton (Sotts & Operator TBC)
Service is extended along the 408 route to Shaw and will finish in Buckstones, a 2 hourly evening and Sunday Service is introduced

403 Oldham - Crompton (Stotts & Operator TBC)
The Span of operation is improved to start at 07:00 and finish at 18:00, The route between Oldham and Shaw is changed to go via Egerton Street, Higginshaw Road, Higginshaw Lane,
Turf Lane, and Shaw Road

408 Oldham - Rochdale (First)
Service Withdrawn

415 Oldham - Middleton (Go North West & Stagecoach)
Evening Service is reduced to 2 hourly

435 Rochdale - Buckstones (Rosso)
Service Withdrawn

456 & 458 Rochdale - Littleborough (Rosso)
Service will run half hourly Mon - Sat and hourly eve & sun going via Hollingworth Lake with Stubley Loop section replaced by the R5 Service

457 Rochdale - Stansfield (Rosso)
Hourly evening and Sunday Service introduced

467 & 468 Bury - Rochdale (Rosso)
Service 467 will operate between Rochdale and Daniel Fold only with Service 468 going from Bury to Rochdale via Bamford

480 Bury - Bolton
2 hourly Sunday Service from Bury to Holcombe Brook is introduced

501 Johnson Fold - Farnworth (Operator TBC)
Two Sunday trips 23:50 from Johnson Fold to Farnworth and 23:55 Farnworth - Johnson Fold are Withdrawn. Some additional trips are introduced at 05:32 Bolton to Farnworth on Saturdays, 06:50 from Johnson Fold - Bolton on Sundays and 06:55 from Farnworth - Johnson Fold on Sundays

511 Bolton - Bury (Operator TBC)
The following Trips are Withdrawn:
19:50 Bolton - Bury on Sundays
20:37 Bury to Bolton on Sundays
21:45 Bolton - Bury Daily
22:37 Bury - Bolton Mon - Sat

New Trips:
21:37 Bury to Bolton on Sundays
22:45 Bolton - Breightmet on Sundays

520 Bolton - Westhoughton (Operator TBC)
New Trip introduced 23:02 Westhoughton to Bolton Mon - Sat

525 Bolton - Smithills Circular (Operator TBC)
Service reduced to 2 hourly of an evening

526 Bolton - Barrow Bridge (Operator TBC)
2 Hourly evening Service introduced

527 Bolton - Smithills (Operator TBC)
Service reduced to 2 hourly of an evening

533 Bolton - Egerton (Vision Bus)
Evening and Sunday Service withdrawn

534 Bolton - Oldhams Estate (Operator TBC)
Evening Service is re-routed so it follows the Commercial route, Sunday Service now starts at 7:40 instead of 10:54

537 Bolton - Astley Bridge (Operator TBC)
The service is extended to Eagley Way with improved operation Span on the Service Monday - Saturday, a 2 Hourly evening and Evening and Sunday Service is introduced between Bolton and Bank Top.

541 Bolton - Toppings Estate (Operator TBC)
Evening Service is improved with last Bus being 23:00 from Bolton

557 Bolton Hospital - Ringley Fold (Operator TBC)
The 14:05 Trip from Bolton Hospital to Ringley Fold is Withdrawn

559 Bolton - Ashton In Makerfield (Operator TBC)
Some trips are extended to Byrchall High and Sir Edmund Arrowsmith at School Times, The 20:56 trip from Ashton In Makerfield to Bolton on Sundays is Withdrawn

571/572 Bolton - Greater Lever Circulars (Operator TBC)
Additional Trips are introduced:
571 07:30 on Sundays and 23:35 Daily
572 05:46 on Saturdays, 07:00 & 08:00 on Sundays and 00:05 Mon - Sat

573/574 Bolton - Sutton Estate Circulars (Operator TBC)
Both Services will operate hourly Monday - Saturday with each Service operating 2 hourly Mon - Sat evening and Sunday with a combined hourly frequency

B2 Bury - Nangreaves (Rosso)
2 hourly Sunday Daytime Service is introduced

B4 Bury - Heywood (Rosso)
Service is re-routed via Fern Grove with a 2 hourly Sunday Service introduced between Bury and Heywood Town Centre

R2 Rochdale - Bury (Rosso)
Operation Span of this Service is improved to start at Rochdale at 08:12 and finish at 18:12 full route and a short before this from Norden to Bury arriving at 08:29, From Bury Services start at 07:28 and last one 17:28

R4 & R5 Rochdale - Peppermint Bridge (Rosso)
Services are merged into one operating as Service R4 from Rochdale to Peppermint Bridge via Leyfield Road and Dale Street/Newhey Road

R5 Rochdale - Littleborough (Rosso & Operator TBC)
Service will operate Hourly Monday - Saturday Daytime Via Rochdale Road to Milnrow, then via Wellington Street, Hursted Road, Wild House Lane, Milnbrow Road to Smithy Bridge, Smithy Bridge Road, New Road, the Stubley loop via Starring Way and Feathersatll Road

R6 Rochdale - Milnrow (Rosso)
New Service operating Hourly Daily starting at 05:36 with last Bus being 21:36 via Oldham Road, A664, Kingsway to serve JD Sports and Asda, Ladyhouse, Elizabethan Way, then a loop in Milnrow via Dale Street, Albert Street, Pennine Drive and Kiln Lane

R7 Rochdale - Middleton (Rosso & Operator TBC)
The route is changed between Rochdale and Castleton to go via Kingsway to serve JD Sports and Asda and will extend to Middleton via Rochdale Road, Stakehill Industrial Estate, Rochdale Road, Stanyclyffe Lane, Boarshaw and Boarshaw Road. The Service will operate Hourly Daily

R9 Rochdale - Foxholes (Rosso)
Service Withdrawn

R9 & R10 Rochdale Circulars (Operator TBC)
New Services introduced, The R9 will operate via Turf Hill, Shaw, Buckstones and Milnrow with R10 operating via Milnrow, Buckstones, Shaw, Turf Hill, Both routes operate Hourly Monday - Saturday Daytime with an Hourly evening and Sunday Service between Rochdale and Shaw via Milnrow

[Mikeonthebuses]

RE: Greater Manchester Tenders

(07/01/2022 15:32)T42 PVM Wrote:  A lot of changes coming up in Greater Manchester over the next few months:

31st October 2021

607/608 Ashton In Makerfield Circulars
Hattons Travel had won this Tendered Service however pulled out before starting operating it due to a Driver Shortage, No replacement operator could be found that was value for money so the Service was withdrawn on the mentioned date

30th January:

516 Horwich - Leigh (Diamond Bus)
Service re-routed to serve Brazley

570 & 574 Bolton Circular via Sutton Estate & Markland Hill (Vision Bus)
Services will operate as Circular Services going via Sutton Estate and Markland Hill, Service 570 is renumbered 573.

577 Bolton - Blackrod (Vision Bus)
Service Withdrawn

24th April

1 Bolton - Blackburn (Operator TBC)
Tendered Trips between Bolton and Egerton introduced departing Bolton and 22:50 and 23:35, Sunday Evening trips are also introduced from Bolton from 18:50 until 23:55

12/12A Middleton - Middleton Junction Circulars (Stagecoach)
These Services are withdrawn and replaced by Service R7

44 Manchester - Wythenshawe Hospital (Selwyns & Operator TBC)
The route is changed after Withington to operate via a Mauldeth Road Parrs Wood Road to East Didsbury then via Wilmslow Road and Barlow Moor Road and back onto current route at Wythenshawe Hospital, The Service is extended to Altrincham via the current 288 Bus Route

125 Middleton - Heywood (Operator TBC)
The Service is totally changed going via Rochdale Road, Hollin Lane, Langley Lane, Birch,
Manchester Road and Heywood, Service will operate Mon - Sat Daytime

129 Middleton - Boarshaw Circular (Go North West, Stotts & Stagecoach)
The route is changed to go Via Boarshaw Road,
Stanyclyffe Lane, Rochdale Road, Nowell Road, Whalley Road, Tintern Road, Hopwood Road, Nowell Road, Rochdale Road, Stanyclyffe Lane, Acresfield Road/Guildford Road, Stanyclyffe Lane and Boarshaw Road, The Service will operate Hourly in the Daytime and 2 hourly of an evening

156 Manchester Shudehill - Middleton (Stagecoach)
The Sunday Daytime Service is increased to half hourly

184 Oldham - Huddersfield (First)
Evening and Sunday Service between Oldham and Grotton is Withdrawn

247 Altrincham - The Trafford Centre (Arriva)
Funded trip from Altrincham to the Trafford Centre Introduced at 04:36

288 East Didsbury to Manchester Airport (Little Gem)
Service is cut back to operate between Altrincham and Manchester Airport only, Monday to Saturday Daytime Service is hourly with a 2 hourly evening and Sunday Service.

356 Oldham - Ashton Under Lyne (Nexus Move)
The main Mon - Sat Daytime Service remains hourly but will divert every 2 hours to serve Carr Hill Road, The Evening Service will operate every 2 hours and the Sunday Service Hourly

364 Stockport - Offerton Circular (Stotts)
Operation of this Service is reduced, Service starts at 08:30 and finishes at 16:40, Service remains hourly

374 Stockport - Grove Circular (Stagecoach)
2 Hourly Evening and Sunday Service is introduced

375 Stockport - Mellor (Selwyns/Operator TBC)
2 hourly Evening and Sunday Service introduced between Stockport and Hawk Green

382 Stockport - Woodley (Selwyns (Operator TBC)
Service starts at 09:00 instead of 08:36

402 Derker - Royton (Sotts & Operator TBC)
Service is extended along the 408 route to Shaw and will finish in Buckstones, a 2 hourly evening and Sunday Service is introduced

403 Oldham - Crompton (Stotts & Operator TBC)
The Span of operation is improved to start at 07:00 and finish at 18:00, The route between Oldham and Shaw is changed to go via Egerton Street, Higginshaw Road, Higginshaw Lane,
Turf Lane, and Shaw Road

408 Oldham - Rochdale (First)
Service Withdrawn

415 Oldham - Middleton (Go North West & Stagecoach)
Evening Service is reduced to 2 hourly

435 Rochdale - Buckstones (Rosso)
Service Withdrawn

456 & 458 Rochdale - Littleborough (Rosso)
Service will run half hourly Mon - Sat and hourly eve & sun going via Hollingworth Lake with Stubley Loop section replaced by the R5 Service

457 Rochdale - Stansfield (Rosso)
Hourly evening and Sunday Service introduced

467 & 468 Bury - Rochdale (Rosso)
Service 467 will operate between Rochdale and Daniel Fold only with Service 468 going from Bury to Rochdale via Bamford

480 Bury - Bolton
2 hourly Sunday Service from Bury to Holcombe Brook is introduced

501 Johnson Fold - Farnworth (Operator TBC)
Two Sunday trips 23:50 from Johnson Fold to Farnworth and 23:55 Farnworth - Johnson Fold are Withdrawn. Some additional trips are introduced at 05:32 Bolton to Farnworth on Saturdays, 06:50 from Johnson Fold - Bolton on Sundays and 06:55 from Farnworth - Johnson Fold on Sundays

511 Bolton - Bury (Operator TBC)
The following Trips are Withdrawn:
19:50 Bolton - Bury on Sundays
20:37 Bury to Bolton on Sundays
21:45 Bolton - Bury Daily
22:37 Bury - Bolton Mon - Sat

New Trips:
21:37 Bury to Bolton on Sundays
22:45 Bolton - Breightmet on Sundays

520 Bolton - Westhoughton (Operator TBC)
New Trip introduced 23:02 Westhoughton to Bolton Mon - Sat

525 Bolton - Smithills Circular (Operator TBC)
Service reduced to 2 hourly of an evening

526 Bolton - Barrow Bridge (Operator TBC)
2 Hourly evening Service introduced

527 Bolton - Smithills (Operator TBC)
Service reduced to 2 hourly of an evening

533 Bolton - Egerton (Vision Bus)
Evening and Sunday Service withdrawn

534 Bolton - Oldhams Estate (Operator TBC)
Evening Service is re-routed so it follows the Commercial route, Sunday Service now starts at 7:40 instead of 10:54

537 Bolton - Astley Bridge (Operator TBC)
The service is extended to Eagley Way with improved operation Span on the Service Monday - Saturday, a 2 Hourly evening and Evening and Sunday Service is introduced between Bolton and Bank Top.

541 Bolton - Toppings Estate (Operator TBC)
Evening Service is improved with last Bus being 23:00 from Bolton

557 Bolton Hospital - Ringley Fold (Operator TBC)
The 14:05 Trip from Bolton Hospital to Ringley Fold is Withdrawn

559 Bolton - Ashton In Makerfield (Operator TBC)
Some trips are extended to Byrchall High and Sir Edmund Arrowsmith at School Times, The 20:56 trip from Ashton In Makerfield to Bolton on Sundays is Withdrawn

571/572 Bolton - Greater Lever Circulars (Operator TBC)
Additional Trips are introduced:
571 07:30 on Sundays and 23:35 Daily
572 05:46 on Saturdays, 07:00 & 08:00 on Sundays and 00:05 Mon - Sat

573/574 Bolton - Sutton Estate Circulars (Operator TBC)
Both Services will operate hourly Monday - Saturday with each Service operating 2 hourly Mon - Sat evening and Sunday with a combined hourly frequency

B2 Bury - Nangreaves (Rosso)
2 hourly Sunday Daytime Service is introduced

B4 Bury - Heywood (Rosso)
Service is re-routed via Fern Grove with a 2 hourly Sunday Service introduced between Bury and Heywood Town Centre

R2 Rochdale - Bury (Rosso)
Operation Span of this Service is improved to start at Rochdale at 08:12 and finish at 18:12 full route and a short before this from Norden to Bury arriving at 08:29, From Bury Services start at 07:28 and last one 17:28

R4 & R5 Rochdale - Peppermint Bridge (Rosso)
Services are merged into one operating as Service R4 from Rochdale to Peppermint Bridge via Leyfield Road and Dale Street/Newhey Road

R5 Rochdale - Littleborough (Rosso & Operator TBC)
Service will operate Hourly Monday - Saturday Daytime Via Rochdale Road to Milnrow, then via Wellington Street, Hursted Road, Wild House Lane, Milnbrow Road to Smithy Bridge, Smithy Bridge Road, New Road, the Stubley loop via Starring Way and Feathersatll Road

R6 Rochdale - Milnrow (Rosso)
New Service operating Hourly Daily starting at 05:36 with last Bus being 21:36 via Oldham Road, A664, Kingsway to serve JD Sports and Asda, Ladyhouse, Elizabethan Way, then a loop in Milnrow via Dale Street, Albert Street, Pennine Drive and Kiln Lane

R7 Rochdale - Middleton (Rosso & Operator TBC)
The route is changed between Rochdale and Castleton to go via Kingsway to serve JD Sports and Asda and will extend to Middleton via Rochdale Road, Stakehill Industrial Estate, Rochdale Road, Stanyclyffe Lane, Boarshaw and Boarshaw Road. The Service will operate Hourly Daily

R9 Rochdale - Foxholes (Rosso)
Service Withdrawn

R9 & R10 Rochdale Circulars (Operator TBC)
New Services introduced, The R9 will operate via Turf Hill, Shaw, Buckstones and Milnrow with R10 operating via Milnrow, Buckstones, Shaw, Turf Hill, Both routes operate Hourly Monday - Saturday Daytime with an Hourly evening and Sunday Service between Rochdale and Shaw via Milnrow

That some changes to the tendered network and some much improved routes which is possibly a sign of things to come, where is this information from

[T42 PVM (Moderator)]

RE: Greater Manchester Tenders
From the Greater Manchester Sub Committee Papers

https://democracy.greatermanchester-ca.g...4498&Ver=4

[knutstransport]

RE: Greater Manchester Tenders

(09/01/2022 21:56)T42 PVM Wrote:  From the Greater Manchester Sub Committee Papers

https://democracy.greatermanchester-ca.g...4498&Ver=4

That was the November meeting. There is another meeting the week after next, which will probably include an update on the proposals presented in November.