First Group Speculation
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RE: Rock Ferry & Stagecoach Speculation
With this whole idea of route learning, I have a question, why? I take it if they purchase the depot they also 'purchase' the buses and drivers and these drivers obviously know the routes, so I don’t see why there would be a need to train other drivers even before the purchase, perhaps after, when they might want to combine duties together from other parts of Liverpool etc, but I would have thought that for at least the first few months the depot would operate as it does now until things settle down. I cannot see them making major changes to staffing levels, duties etc for the first day of operation, but I might be wrong of course! Wrexham Transport (Flickr) |
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RE: Rock Ferry & Stagecoach Speculation
No, you're absolutely right Garsty. I would not be surprised however to see Stagecoach staff out assessing routings, timings and loadings so they can have some idea of the service details in the event they takeover. I imagine there'll be all sorts of corporate legal hoops to jump through before First give them that info, but by getting out on the street and doing it themselves they circumvent it all. |
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RE: Rock Ferry & Stagecoach Speculation
If Stagecoach was to buy First Wigan, it is unlikely they'd take on all routes isn't it? |
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RE: Rock Ferry & Stagecoach Speculation
regarding rock ferry whos to say that the depot might shut and most routes taken out then interchange them with other routes stagecoach have running into liverpool? am saying this as i remember something somewhere about the council wanting the land for house building For Blog Posts Containing all the latest in the local Bus Scene The 2002 Bus Blog Subscribe to my Youtube Channel, Updated regularly! All my Social Media Links here! https://linktr.ee/TerencePrice |
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RE: Rock Ferry & Stagecoach Speculation
(29/08/2012 18:52)bolton bus basher Wrote: regarding rock ferry whos to say that the depot might shut and most routes taken out then interchange them with other routes stagecoach have running into liverpool? am saying this as i remember something somewhere about the council wanting the land for house buildingIf that’s the case, then why buy the depot? They could just wait for what happened in North Devon after the OFT decision to refer the sale between First and Stagecoach, would save them a load of cash! Wrexham Transport (Flickr) |
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RE: Rock Ferry & Stagecoach Speculation
(25/08/2012 09:08)YJ09 FWE Wrote:(25/08/2012 09:04)P450 SWX Wrote: With the 2 stagwcoach Minibuses with drivers in and around rock ferry depot the other day something is going on. (25/08/2012 13:46)mbonwick Wrote: *Abellio. It will be interesting to see what happens, i'm not surprised if RF is one of the depots up for sale considering they were reported to be losing a shed load of money a couple years ago. My Flickr site http://www.flickr.com/photos/31135444@N02/ |
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RE: Rock Ferry & Stagecoach Speculation
MTL0201 if you look back I am not the only one to notice these minibuses fromm gillmoss being around. also the Abellio point was drivers telling me the rumours for chester and as this is for that i was just saying what .I had been told |
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RE: Rock Ferry & Stagecoach Speculation
This may only be a rumor but is certainly speculation but the car park behind the First depot on Liverpool Road in Chester is up for sale by Cheshire West and Chester council for development and the rumor is that Stagecoach are going to move into there, of course a depot needs to be built but there is plenty of space there, instead of using the current depot. The 2002 Bus Blog is about Transport in the North West of England and North Wales however we do venture further afield on some occasions - why not check out our latest content on our Website
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RE: Rock Ferry & Stagecoach Speculation
Lead drivers will have been out route assessing, checking loadings etc of which will then allow Stagecoach to roughly calculate their own projected route figures. The route figures would allow Stagecoach to see where changes need to be made for the financial sustainability of the services, for in the event Stagecoach do take over the Rock Ferry services. Direct figures from First themselves would not be as useful for Stagecoach, as the two companies have rather different financial systems in place, which means they are not directly comparable. Such information would be a lot more important in the event of First completely pulling out of the area, for Stagecoach to take over their routes, as opposed to a buy-out, as Stagecoach would only register replacement routes for the ones that are deemed financially viable to operate. (Note that a route not profitable with First could be profitable with Stagecoach, depending on differences in the financial strategies, and costs involved in operations). |
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RE: Rock Ferry & Stagecoach Speculation
I would laugh if you was all hoodwinked into thinking Stagecoach . Just look at the Wirral routes its not exactly a big network , with only two sets of Non-QBP routes 38/41/2 . These are the routes that need some investment |
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