Arriva North West - Birkenhead Depot

[busdude]

RE: Arriva North West - Birkenhead Depot
Looks like 418 is going to every 40 minutes from the 25th April, according to the traveline website

[mrd97]

RE: Arriva North West - Birkenhead Depot

(28/03/2022 10:42)busdude Wrote:  Looks like 418 is going to every 40 minutes from the 25th April, according to the traveline website

Bloody hell that’s no good. Since the collapse of Avon and the network reviews the bus network around the Wirral is already sparse. 40 minutes isn’t great for remembering either.

411 looks like it’s going to every 30 minutes Monday - Friday, 410 now runs the same Monday-Friday as it does Saturdays.

Short of drivers?

[DVG526]

RE: Arriva North West - Birkenhead Depot

(28/03/2022 11:56)mrd97 Wrote:  Bloody hell that’s no good. Since the collapse of Avon and the network reviews the bus network around the Wirral is already sparse. 40 minutes isn’t great for remembering either.

411 looks like it’s going to every 30 minutes Monday - Friday, 410 now runs the same Monday-Friday as it does Saturdays.

Short of drivers?

Nothing on Merseytravel yet about these changes.

The 418 needs cutting back to Woodside - APH. Doesn’t carry much to New Ferry. That end of the route could be covered by altering the 16/17 to run a longer circular, split routes at Mount Rd then say run 16 via Bedford Drive, Dacre Hill, Bebington Stn, Spital and 17 v.v etc. The Raby bit needs binning total waste of money

[mrd97]

RE: Arriva North West - Birkenhead Depot

(28/03/2022 18:08)DVG526 Wrote:  Nothing on Merseytravel yet about these changes.

The 418 needs cutting back to Woodside - APH. Doesn’t carry much to New Ferry. That end of the route could be covered by altering the 16/17 to run a longer circular, split routes at Mount Rd then say run 16 via Bedford Drive, Dacre Hill, Bebington Stn, Spital and 17 v.v etc. The Raby bit needs binning total waste of money

Not many people might use the bus from Raby Mere but it’s the start of a dangerous process by deciding an area doesn’t deserve public transport. We’ve already seen large swathes of the Wirral had their buses removed, let’s not add fuel to the fire.

The original 418/419 was relatively well patronised, maybe not commercially but enough people used it to deem it necessary. One of the most awful cuts to a bus service I’ve seen when that was axed (at the time no service to APH from Brom or Eastham), 2 half hourly bus services (418/9 and 145/6) replaced with an hourly extension to the 38. In an ideal world, I’d maybe say this:

A half-hourly 418 between Birkenhead and Arrowe park
One per hour extended to mill park via original route. Cut 38 back to Bromborough’s industrial estate. Probably wouldn’t cost much money.

Go back 10 years and nearly everywhere on the Wirral had a bus service of some sort. The subsidised ‘little’ routes are nearly all gone now. Took all the joy out of bus riding for me.

Not being funny but Merseytravel pay to divert the 418 via Prenton Dell, I wouldn’t be happy with this cut if they’re paying for part of the route.

[wirralbus]

RE: Arriva North West - Birkenhead Depot
38 from New Ferry to Eastham is torture , it tries to be a bit of everything but takes too long on that stretch.

Prenton Dell needs a respectable service even if it is just to get out to an area where passengers can change to another service.

[N304CLV]

RE: Arriva North West - Birkenhead Depot
4497 is the latest refurb.

[DVG526]

RE: Arriva North West - Birkenhead Depot

(28/03/2022 18:53)mrd97 Wrote:  Not many people might use the bus from Raby Mere but it’s the start of a dangerous process by deciding an area doesn’t deserve public transport. We’ve already seen large swathes of the Wirral had their buses removed, let’s not add fuel to the fire.

The original 418/419 was relatively well patronised, maybe not commercially but enough people used it to deem it necessary. One of the most awful cuts to a bus service I’ve seen when that was axed (at the time no service to APH from Brom or Eastham), 2 half hourly bus services (418/9 and 145/6) replaced with an hourly extension to the 38. In an ideal world, I’d maybe say this:

A half-hourly 418 between Birkenhead and Arrowe park
One per hour extended to mill park via original route. Cut 38 back to Bromborough’s industrial estate. Probably wouldn’t cost much money.

Go back 10 years and nearly everywhere on the Wirral had a bus service of some sort. The subsidised ‘little’ routes are nearly all gone now. Took all the joy out of bus riding for me.

Not being funny but Merseytravel pay to divert the 418 via Prenton Dell, I wouldn’t be happy with this cut if they’re paying for part of the route.

The section of 16/17 between Allport Rd and Clatterbridge via Blakeley Rd was historically not served by bus, only since the mad days of of trying to cover every bit of road on Wirral a few years back with various money wasting tenders. I’m sure any drivers on here who work at RF will confirm it’s a total waste of time sending 2 buses an hour down there. The routes would be much better being revamped around Bebington Bromborough and Eastham along with the 38.

[N304CLV]

RE: Arriva North West - Birkenhead Depot

(31/03/2022 12:32)N304CLV Wrote:  4497 is the latest refurb.

4500 is another refurb.

[N304CLV]

RE: Arriva North West - Birkenhead Depot

(31/03/2022 19:13)N304CLV Wrote:  4500 is another refurb.

4520 is another refurb.

[DVG526]

RE: Arriva North West - Birkenhead Depot

(28/03/2022 11:56)mrd97 Wrote:  Bloody hell that’s no good. Since the collapse of Avon and the network reviews the bus network around the Wirral is already sparse. 40 minutes isn’t great for remembering either.

411 looks like it’s going to every 30 minutes Monday - Friday, 410 now runs the same Monday-Friday as it does Saturdays.

Short of drivers?

Timetables now confirmed on Merseytravel from 24th April;

410 M-F frequency reduced to every 15 NB/30 Clatter similar to the Saturday frequency.

411 M-F frequency reduced to half hourly

418 frequency reduced to every 40 minutes