Manchester bus franchising

[KX03 KYY]

RE: Manchester bus franchising

(24/12/2022 11:52)Mayneway Wrote:  Vision drivers were given letters yesterday saying they will be TUPE’ing over to diamond north west at a new depot that will be built in Eccles. Vision mention they are badly disappointed to have not won the smaller contracts.

Thought with Vision being in Bolton it would been GNW they Tupe'd over to as surly GNW got Bolton Contracts which is Vision Bus main area

[T42 PVM (Moderator)]

RE: Manchester bus franchising

(24/12/2022 11:52)Mayneway Wrote:  Vision drivers were given letters yesterday saying they will be TUPE’ing over to diamond north west at a new depot that will be built in Eccles. Vision mention they are badly disappointed to have not won the smaller contracts.

Loads of Vision Drivers are ex Diamond and are going mad, Fair few already contacted Go North West for a Job there instead

[Mayneway]

RE: Manchester bus franchising

(24/12/2022 13:59)T42 PVM Wrote:  Loads of Vision Drivers are ex Diamond and are going mad, Fair few already contacted Go North West for a Job there instead

Yes I believe so. I find it pretty disappointing diamond have actually won anything given their attempts to overturn the franchising model in Manchester and with their poor track record regarding services etc.

[Mayneway]

RE: Manchester bus franchising

(24/12/2022 12:52)CX06 BHE Wrote:  Thought with Vision being in Bolton it would been GNW they Tupe'd over to as surly GNW got Bolton Contracts which is Vision Bus main area

The way the contracts are broken down it looks like GNW might get one or two but the majority of Visions work will pass to Diamond under the ‘smaller contracts’ banner. A letter put out by Bob Dunn yesterday suggests land has been acquired in Eccles and a new purpose built depot will be built and will house around 100 buses. The contracts they have won from September are 85 buses worth apparently. Presumably this will incorporate the current Eccles work and drivers.

I can honestly see them struggle to recruit and retain staff. I expect a mass exodus in the next few months.

[knutstransport]

RE: Manchester bus franchising

(24/12/2022 13:59)T42 PVM Wrote:  Loads of Vision Drivers are ex Diamond and are going mad

If they do have better contracts terms at Vision then TUPE will retain those terms, not switch them back.

[Metroline1511]

RE: Manchester bus franchising
The idea that 7 out of 9 or 11 small franchises have been won by Rotala Diamond still leaves ambiguity as to who has won the remaining small franchises.

Plus, even assuming there are no immediate route changes, we do not know which routes are part of which franchise.

[Mrboo]

RE: Manchester bus franchising
There has been a post on FB from someone who has seen a letter from DNW about what going to Eccles.
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=101...6511140862

[moreton407]

RE: Manchester bus franchising
With smaller operators work going to bigger companies in the franchising, do the smaller companies just close down?

[KX03 KYY]

RE: Manchester bus franchising

(24/12/2022 17:37)Mrboo Wrote:  There has been a post on FB from someone who has seen a letter from DNW about what going to Eccles.
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=101...6511140862

Any ideas what GNW will operate from Bolton

Also does this affect stagecoach services on Manchester bar Wigan going to GNW???

[Scania3379man]

RE: Manchester bus franchising

(24/12/2022 22:40)CX06 BHE Wrote:  Any ideas what GNW will operate from Bolton

Also does this affect stagecoach services on Manchester bar Wigan going to GNW???

I wonder that too.