Arriva Buses Wales - Wrexham Depot

[LJ51 DDA]

RE: Arriva Buses Wales - Wrexham Depot
fine by me send the Pulsar's back id happily have them all day long. much more reliable.. wont bother me one bit least i know then the 1 will be reliable, ontime and not breaking down 24/7...weird how independents run a better service than what Sapphire does. surely if you going to use a promotional service get some brand new vehicles like Stagecoach Gold do. every Route that goes gold with Stagecoach gets Brand new buses. but arriva oh no cant do that.

[MPTE1955]

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I do agree that Arriva should maybe have got new vehicles for this flagship Sapphire service, but to be fair a lot of money was spent on the refurbishment of these enviros. As for pulsars, I would happily swap some pulsars for these enviros.

[cx04axy]

RE: Arriva Buses Wales - Wrexham Depot
id rather see 815 and 816 back on the one

[M393VWX]

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They were doing routes similar length in the Wirral and also longer routes like the 401 i had quite a few of them on that and they ran fine also the Bootle ones are doing the 61 which is longer so the 1 should be easy for the Sapphires

[CX54 DKD (Moderator)]

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(23/09/2013 20:55)SNL 824 Wrote:  They had some issues at LS as they often ended up in safe mode, but nothing like the persistent issues Wrexham have. If it's electrics as I think was reported, it probaby is something to do with the refurb. I'd happily see them back in birkenhead instead of the hybrids.

There's no such thing as 'safe mode', it's a myth. They're tuned down to improve component life and reduce fuel burn. I'm informed that the Enviros in particular have two preset modes, 'economical' and 'performance'.

Electrical fault supposedly picked up during the installation of new electrical systems during refurb. Can't say I see it as an issue that the vehicles aren't brand new considering the extent of refurbishment.

[M113 YKC]

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(24/09/2013 12:38)CX54 DKD Wrote:  There's no such thing as 'safe mode', it's a myth. They're tuned down to improve component life and reduce fuel burn.

That's not true. The dashboard manual, which came with the Optare Versa that Impera had a few months ago, mentioned that if a certain emissions light illuminated on the dashboard, the bus would feature a deduction in power (thus the bus would do so automatically). Obviously, buses can be turned-down for the reason that you've said, but that isn't always the case (unless Optare vehicles are the only ones to do such a thing).

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(24/09/2013 13:09)KU02 YUH Wrote:  

(24/09/2013 12:38)CX54 DKD Wrote:  There's no such thing as 'safe mode', it's a myth. They're tuned down to improve component life and reduce fuel burn.

That's not true. The dashboard manual, which came with the Optare Versa that Impera had a few months ago, mentioned that if a certain emissions light illuminated on the dashboard, the bus would feature a deduction in power (thus the bus would do so automatically). Obviously, buses can be turned-down for the reason that you've said, but that isn't always the case (unless Optare vehicles are the only ones to do such a thing).

It is true that all modern vehicles from Alexander Dennis, Optare, VDL and so on have a feature, in which, if it is has an engine which uses Selective Catalytic Reduction along with Adblue (mainly Cummins engines with Allison or ZF transmission) along with an Emission After-treatment System. The economy mode is activated when either the Adblue tank is empty, the Adblue supply is interrupted and the EAS system is turned off or there is a fault in the EAS system. The vehicle will automatically enter the engine and gearbox into an emissions friendly setting by reducing the engine torque by 40% to ensure that the exhaust gas emissions don't exceed the legal limits.

[CX54 DKD (Moderator)]

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What Tom says above is the actual case (I've explained it previously too). It occurs that rarely though, it's hardly worth mentioning. It's certainly not why the Enviro400s are sometimes constantly slow/sluggish vehicles at any rate which is what SNL is referring to. No magical 'safe mode' which vehicles are left in, indefinitely though.

[LJ51 DDA]

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been informed today that Wrexham depot have had enough of the Useless Enviro400's and demanded a Extra 2 vehicles to be Tarted up into Sapphire and they have got what they asked for 2 deckers are shortly to be done up according to a Arriva Wrexham Driver....about time we got what we ask for to. guessing itll be 4400/1 or something like that but yess anyway thats the info ive gained

[Raawwwrrr!]

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There's probably more chance of a tarted up DLP or VLW