First Manchester

[Polo Mint]

RE: First Manchester
The Olympians are excellent, but as said earlier not if you are old, disabled or have a young kid.

Lots of B7RLE's on the 17 and saw one on the 163 also.

(19/11/2013 19:58)SF07 Wrote:  Some more details of the 582 price reductions for the single fares, as they put a dedicated page on their website along with a fare table (although they've put 528 instead of 582 in the URL).

http://www.firstgroup.com/ukbus/greater_...ervice582/

First have also put up a comparison of prices of weekly tickets between themselves and the Metrolink between Rochdale/Oldham and Manchester, in a probable attempt to coax some people back onto the bus from the tram.

http://www.firstgroup.com/ukbus/greater_...g/savings/

(21/11/2013 18:27)SF07 Wrote:  B7RLEs out in force today on non-regular services in Oldham, as they were operating on services 59, 83, 184 and 409. Two Olympians out on the 58, both arriving at Oldham bus station at the same time in opposite directions. Another B9TL operating on the 184 to Huddersfield (1620 from Piccadilly).

Meanwhile, First will be introducing cheaper single fares on the 346 from Sunday. Interesting to see if Stagecoach response.

http://www.firstgroup.com/ukbus/greater_...711&conf=0

I understand the 'special' low fares for route that compete with the tram or Stagecoach but what's special about the 582 to get lower fares? Is there a competitor on the route?

[Mayneway]

RE: First Manchester

(22/11/2013 17:03)joe_alker Wrote:  To be honest - I rarely see Arrows or Olympians on the 346 - they do tend to be restricted to more local services now.

But yes Pioneer really does need some new investment.

The Arrow is on the 346 most weekday daytimes.
The Olympians tend to be on 331/333's or 38/39's which are all well patronised by OAP's!

[mic]

RE: First Manchester

(22/11/2013 19:43)Mayneway Wrote:  

(22/11/2013 17:03)joe_alker Wrote:  To be honest - I rarely see Arrows or Olympians on the 346 - they do tend to be restricted to more local services now.

But yes Pioneer really does need some new investment.

The Arrow is on the 346 most weekday daytimes.
The Olympians tend to be on 331/333's or 38/39's which are all well patronised by OAP's!

all 3 have been on 348/350s as well mainly the olys come of a school service and start the 348 at 15.48 i went on the arrow the other week and still runs well but is due for withdrawl along with 40403

[GmBusesNorth]

RE: First Manchester

(22/11/2013 18:51)Polo Mint Wrote:  The Olympians are excellent, but as said earlier not if you are old, disabled or have a young kid.

Lots of B7RLE's on the 17 and saw one on the 163 also.

(19/11/2013 19:58)SF07 Wrote:  Some more details of the 582 price reductions for the single fares, as they put a dedicated page on their website along with a fare table (although they've put 528 instead of 582 in the URL).

http://www.firstgroup.com/ukbus/greater_...ervice582/

First have also put up a comparison of prices of weekly tickets between themselves and the Metrolink between Rochdale/Oldham and Manchester, in a probable attempt to coax some people back onto the bus from the tram.

http://www.firstgroup.com/ukbus/greater_...g/savings/

(21/11/2013 18:27)SF07 Wrote:  B7RLEs out in force today on non-regular services in Oldham, as they were operating on services 59, 83, 184 and 409. Two Olympians out on the 58, both arriving at Oldham bus station at the same time in opposite directions. Another B9TL operating on the 184 to Huddersfield (1620 from Piccadilly).

Meanwhile, First will be introducing cheaper single fares on the 346 from Sunday. Interesting to see if Stagecoach response.

http://www.firstgroup.com/ukbus/greater_...711&conf=0

I understand the 'special' low fares for route that compete with the tram or Stagecoach but what's special about the 582 to get lower fares? Is there a competitor on the route?

Possibly scared that stagecoach in wigan may go on that route! Stagecoach in wigan are recruiting quite a few drivers at the moment!

[Benzo]

RE: First Manchester

(22/11/2013 18:51)mic Wrote:  

(22/11/2013 18:29)Benzo Wrote:  

(22/11/2013 17:41)mic Wrote:  and i think 40403 is the last bus of its kind still in service not seen 40382 for ages and 40406 is still on loan at Oldham

40361/4 also still in service as well. 40382 has been withdrawn.
Seen a Marshall dart on the 387 bound for Hyde this evening, don't know which one though

thanks for update on the dart

I assume 40416 Is still pushing itself to the limit for its elderly age. Marshall 41781 was on pioneer routes this week, think that one is an OM Marshall

[mic]

RE: First Manchester

(22/11/2013 20:33)Benzo Wrote:  

(22/11/2013 18:51)mic Wrote:  

(22/11/2013 18:29)Benzo Wrote:  40361/4 also still in service as well. 40382 has been withdrawn.
Seen a Marshall dart on the 387 bound for Hyde this evening, don't know which one though

thanks for update on the dart

I assume 40416 Is still pushing itself to the limit for its elderly age. Marshall 41781 was on pioneer routes this week, think that one is an OM Marshall

no 41781 was transffred as it has full first pioneer legals they have 41780/81/84/85/86/87 with Oldham 41782/83/88 40416 ? not been to Oldham for weeks now

[M60lad]

RE: First Manchester
After it disappearing and thinking its been withdrawn imagine my surprise when I set off out this morning to see 40416 about to cross Foxdenton Lane in Chadderton towards Middleton on 415 so it still lives on and refuses to die

[james]

RE: First Manchester

(22/11/2013 17:41)mic Wrote:  

(22/11/2013 17:03)joe_alker Wrote:  To be honest - I rarely see Arrows or Olympians on the 346 - they do tend to be restricted to more local services now.

But yes Pioneer really does need some new investment.

and i think 40403 is the last bus of its kind still in service not seen 40382 for ages and 40406 is still on loan at Oldham

2 darts wereout today 403 and 1 other but wasnt 406 i know that the olys and all week eithetr have done 348/350 or 346-331-333-389 with 31929 on 39s today after swapping early doors for a bus that had no heating on

[mic]

RE: First Manchester

(23/11/2013 18:56)james Wrote:  

(22/11/2013 17:41)mic Wrote:  

(22/11/2013 17:03)joe_alker Wrote:  To be honest - I rarely see Arrows or Olympians on the 346 - they do tend to be restricted to more local services now.

But yes Pioneer really does need some new investment.

and i think 40403 is the last bus of its kind still in service not seen 40382 for ages and 40406 is still on loan at Oldham

2 darts wereout today 403 and 1 other but wasnt 406 i know that the olys and all week eithetr have done 348/350 or 346-331-333-389 with 31929 on 39s today after swapping early doors for a bus that had no heating on

40406 still on loan at Oldham as far as i know saw it other week and it still had pioneer blind in

[M60lad]

RE: First Manchester
Yes 40406 has still got its Pioneer blinds fitted as I've seen it recently as I just live just off 415 route, not to sure how long its going to be on loan to Oldham Depot for as really there's no replacements due or nothing new for 415s for the foreseeable future, it would be nice for the 415 to get some new reliable vehicles but as I don't think its one of Oldham Depot's highest money making routes I don't think that this will happen anytime soon, mind you the Darts and Solos can't run for ever so it would be interesting to see what Oldham do get to replace them and when.