Arriva North West - St Helens Depot

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RE: Arriva North West - St Helens Depot
a 352 Was nearly involved in a head on accident yesterday a car driver turned the wrong way down Wallgate onto the one way system heading the wrong way and the 352 driver had to slam on it was a MX09OP* why are car driving standards so low these days? what with all the metrolink issues caused by car driver incompetence.

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(13/02/2015 13:11)St Helens Rider Wrote:  That accounts for the route and stopping places change but doesn't explain the timetable change as I wouldn't have thought this would make any difference to the times. Perhaps a more dramatic change maybe those to the 17/33 from the same date - this have been on VOSA for nearly a fortnight but I've still not seen any further details apart from the info that the St Helens - Widnes section is going to be a Quality Partnership.

Timetable change covers the timing points of the service so the change will also be the "moving to stand 7" and Stand 7 becoming a timing point en route

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(15/02/2015 21:42)Dentonian Wrote:  Sorry, I'm not familiar with this service, and indeed its many a year since I visited St. Helens. Presumably, this service currently calls at a side street away from the Bus Station, but will be moving into the Bus station, and probably technically using a slightly different routing. Otherwise there would be no need to re-register without a more fundamental change to times.

You assume correct!

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Will the 352 Divert Tomorrow due to the South Sydney Rabbitohs Training Session in Orrell? the Roads are expected to be Gridlocked around Church Street and Surrounding Roads for the 3 or so hours i could see Arriva Diverting via the Old Route?

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2676 is still here - on 33's this morning. Is the vehicle's move to Wythenshawe still planned?

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2985 is now dangerously slow below 30MPH and the gearbox seemingly has a mind of its own at times, kicking down two gears when the driver wants any kind of moderate progress. Takes an age to pull off which is not good at all.

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For anyone that is wondering what is happening with the 33/17s
Also the 89 will be part of a QBP too -

37 Bus Service 10 and 10A QPS
Existing agreement between operators Stagecoach and Arriva along the St Helens – Prescot – Liverpool bus route will act as model for other proposed routes. With St Helens MBC.

38 Bus Service 61 QPS Provision of improved cross boundary fares offer on 61 bus service and standardisation of timetable to provide a service every 20 minutes minimum between Prescot – Rainhill – Widnes. With Knowsley, St Helens & Halton BC.

39 Bus Service 89/89A QPS Provision of improved cross boundary fares offer on 89 bus service and standardisation of timetable to provide a service every 20 minutes between St Helens – Prescot – Huyton – John Lennon Airport. With Knowsley, St Helens & Liverpool Council.

40 Bus Service 17 and 33 QPS Provision of improved cross boundary fares offer and interavailable ticketing between operators on the 17 and 33 bus services, as well as coordination of timetable to provide a service every 15 minutes between St Helens – Widnes and introduction of real time passenger information along routes. With St Helens &
Halton BC

41 Bus Service 14 and 79C QPS Provision of improved cross boundary fares offer and interavailable ticketing between operators on the 14 and 79C bus services, as well as the introduction of real time passenger information along routes.

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I can understand the 14/79C and 17/33 beibg QBP's but the 89 & 61 have no direct competition - it's just one operator on each route.

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I think the 61 and 89 are more down to a lot of infrastructure work from the councils and Merseytravel such as bus stop upgrades, a lot of traffic signal and junction improvements along those 2 routes for buses along those routes to improve reliability. A lot of work is planned on junctions in St Helens/Rainhill/Thatto Heath in particular.

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(19/02/2015 11:37)mr t Wrote:  I think the 61 and 89 are more down to a lot of infrastructure work from the councils and Merseytravel such as bus stop upgrades, a lot of traffic signal and junction improvements along those 2 routes for buses along those routes to improve reliability. A lot of work is planned on junctions in St Helens/Rainhill/Thatto Heath in particular.

Thanks for clarifying mr t.