Stagecoach 2016/17 orders

[YN05 WKE]

Stagecoach 2016/17 orders
Hi all any news on orders for this year?

Anything due for MS&SL this year as well?

[mbonwick]

RE: Stagecoach 2016/17 orders
No. The announcement is normally the back end of January, though this year it may even be as late as March as there ia still a full delivery progamme up until then.

[chester285]

RE: Stagecoach 2016/17 orders

(02/01/2016 12:48)E208 WBG Wrote:  Hi all any news on orders for this year?

Anything due for MS&SL this year as well?

There will be 12 Enviro 200 MMC for Chester's Park and rides, as for anything else just have to wait and see.

[Southernsofty]

RE: Stagecoach 2016/17 orders

(02/01/2016 13:28)mbonwick Wrote:  No. The announcement is normally the back end of January, though this year it may even be as late as March as there ia still a full delivery progamme up until then.

The big questions are: -
1. Will Stagecoach (& Arriva, Go Ahead et al) be buying anymore Euro 5 vehicles, which appear to be still allowed under some odd loophole in the regulations?
2. Will the ADL "Classic body style" i.e Enviro200/Enviro300/Enviro400 still be available to order as against the new MMC style?

[mbonwick]

RE: Stagecoach 2016/17 orders
I'll answer both questions together, as they are linked.

ADL have said that they are wanting to have Euro 5 production to have finished by the start of 2016. That means no more "classic" Enviro200/400, and no more Enviro300 at all (except on 3rd party chassis).
While Enviro200/400 production is very much already in the switchover, it's less clear for how long Enviro300s will be produced for - if at all.

So basically - while the legal loophole will still exist, it's probably going to be hard to find a mainstream product that exploits it.

[Southernsofty]

RE: Stagecoach 2016/17 orders

(04/01/2016 22:11)mbonwick Wrote:  I'll answer both questions together, as they are linked.

ADL have said that they are wanting to have Euro 5 production to have finished by the start of 2016. That means no more "classic" Enviro200/400, and no more Enviro300 at all (except on 3rd party chassis).
While Enviro200/400 production is very much already in the switchover, it's less clear for how long Enviro300s will be produced for - if at all.

So basically - while the legal loophole will still exist, it's probably going to be hard to find a mainstream product that exploits it.

Thanks for the Info MB.

[childwallblues]

RE: Stagecoach 2016/17 orders
So will there not be an equivalent of an Enviro300 MMC from ADL?

[Southernsofty]

RE: Stagecoach 2016/17 orders

(06/01/2016 07:45)childwallblues Wrote:  So will there not be an equivalent of an Enviro300 MMC from ADL?

Yes, it's called an Enviro 200 MMC, which comes in several different lengths, from, I am guessing 8.9m, right up to 12m.

[volvodart]

RE: Stagecoach 2016/17 orders
I would expect the Scania and other bodies to be updated to E300MMC at some stage.

[buses7675 (Website Founder)]

RE: Stagecoach 2016/17 orders

(06/01/2016 08:49)Southernsofty Wrote:  Yes, it's called an Enviro 200 MMC, which comes in several different lengths, from, I am guessing 8.9m, right up to 12m.

I think the longest Enviro200MMC is going to be 11.5 metres (though 11.8 metre apparently if you get the 6 cylinder engine) but this will be the replacement for the 11.8 metre Enviro300.

As far as I know, Stagecoach Merseyside 27300 is the last built standard ADL Enviro300.