Wirral Bus & Tram Show

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RE: Wirral Bus & Tram Show 2012

(09/10/2012 19:36)Peterw Wrote:  

(08/10/2012 21:52)3111 Wrote:  I wasn't happy with what Arriva buses were there... Pulsar 2 MX61 AWV (3065), out of everything that Green Lane could have sent on a Sunday, was a disappointing choice and, again, Speke's delivery, scruffy-looking Gemini 2 MX61 AXK (4469), was disappointing. Southport's choice of 375/385-branded ALX400 CX55 EAW (4107) was nice, however, again, something like a redundant-for-the-day SPD would have meant more to us, as enthusiasts. Also, space inside the main area was a big tight (I'm already in a lot of photos...!), so it was hard to take photos when the yard was nearly full (didn't help when one or two certain children were getting in the way of many photographers and shouting things like, "This bus is rubbish" by their owners - very disrespectful, even if we are entitled to our opinions).

Slightly hypocritical of you to complain about people making unpleasant comments about the buses there then do similar in your comments about the Arriva vehicles. Just remember that someone took the time and trouble to get them on display and return them home.

Yes, I know. I haven't criticised that - I've mainly criticised the choice of buses from the depots, as a local person, and the state of one of them (4469).

I didn't say that we couldn't have an opinion - shouting about it beside the owner, who has spent his/her own money and his/her own time on the bus, was what I was criticising. If it was posted sensibly on here, I wouldn't have had a problem with it (personally).

(09/10/2012 19:42)CX06 EBK Wrote:  Also Arriva probably want to show off their "best" buses, SPDs may have been of interest to some enthusiasts but a lot of people were around the B7TL when I was there and the driver of said B7 is a credit to Southport.

(09/10/2012 19:47)507009 Wrote:  As for the Southport B7, an excellent choice in my opinion and as CX06 has said, a top notch driver who showed his depot in the best of lights. You can't blame Arriva depots for sending their newest buses to the event - I would think to most outsiders there would be considerably more interest in a Volvo decker than a DartSLF.

Fair enough. I was just stating my opinion as a local person. It was mainly the disappointing sight of the Pulsar 2 that got to me. I didn't really have a problem with 4107 - just disappointed not to see something "elderly" there (with a past).

(09/10/2012 19:47)507009 Wrote:  I'd contest the notion that the Speke Gemini was "scruffy" - it didn't look bad to me.

Oh yeah - of course it didn't...! There was a big scratch on the side, near the doors, and the front-end looked like it needed a touch-up (underneath the front windscreen, especially). Hardly the depot's best bus, presentation-wise, in MY opinion and from what I seen of it (well, a friend pointed the "scruffiness" out), and if it was, I'd be worried...