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(22/03/2013 14:50)Phil Wrote:  Maybe I'm letting this get to me more than it should but why oh why have GL decided on Pulsars yet again? Is it depot management going for profit rather than customer satisfaction? I simply cannot see how a case for deckers on the 12/13 being declined.

Just try deckets for a bloody change. Stop treating people like sardines
The 12/13 serve a significant number of hotspots and residential areas. If the services were marketed properly around those areas, they would probably appeal to car users (one of the main points of bus services - to provide car users with other ways to travel). If that knock-on effect did take place, patronage figures would increase and would prove that the order of single-deckers for the services was not enough. However, if that did happen and Arriva did eventually decide to provide the services with double-deckers, car users may already have decided against using the services and the damage may have been done. I'm sure that, if double-deckers were drafted in alongside huge marketing effort, their time would be worthwhile.

For existing passengers, in comparison to a typical Marshall, there are five extra seats and an additional area of standing room. Whilst Pulsars do tend to go onto the services regularly at the moment, a full allocation of them will be beneficial somehow. It's something, at least (not much, but better than how it currently is). As for how many have been ordered and how many are needed, there may (on paper) already be enough spare Pulsars to cover what's needed (as 507009 mentioned, the 26/27 usually have a few examples on there). And as for the choice of Pulsars, Volvo/Eclipses seat only one additional passenger (and probably a few standees) - in addition, Arriva probably get Pulsars for a discount price with them being the UK VDL importer, so overall it's better business from their perspective. Wright quality doesn't seem to be great these days, either - Eclipses that I've sampled haven't been much better or worse than Pulsars (hit and miss).

Furthermore, bunching is another big factor with these regular services - often, several pass through Queen Square Bus Station at once, then nothing appears for up to 10 minutes and then the cycle is repeated. Personally, I think that the bunching issue needs to be addressed in order for the services to run more efficiently (such as adding more time where traffic is an issue). Then, when they're running efficiently and passenger numbers are more realistic (spread-out) on each 12/13 journey, patronage figures can be properly assessed.

Bear with me on this - my wording, as always, may be a bit difficult to understand. This isn't aimed at Phil. This scenario also goes with most (if not, all) services. Hope it makes sense and points are taken-in!

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New Buses Orders - cx04axy - 08/03/2013, 17:18
RE: New Buses Orders - Phil - 11/03/2013, 12:52
RE: New Buses Orders - MPTE1955 - 11/03/2013, 13:09
RE: New Buses Orders - K853 MTJ - 11/03/2013, 14:06
RE: New Buses Orders - MPTE1955 - 11/03/2013, 14:34
RE: New Buses Orders - MX12 KWB - 11/03/2013, 16:08
RE: New Buses Orders - K853 MTJ - 11/03/2013, 22:58
RE: New Buses Orders - Raawwwrrr! - 11/03/2013, 23:19
RE: New Buses Orders - wirralbus - 12/03/2013, 06:29
RE: New Buses Orders - M113 YKC - 12/03/2013, 06:58
RE: New Buses Orders - Phil - 13/03/2013, 20:44
RE: New Buses Orders - wirralbus - 13/03/2013, 21:05
RE: New Buses Orders - Gillmoss 0324 - 13/03/2013, 21:24
RE: New Buses Orders - H101GEV - 13/03/2013, 22:27
RE: New Buses Orders - Wright Eclipse - 14/03/2013, 13:37
RE: New Buses Orders - CX06 EBK - 14/03/2013, 13:58
RE: New Buses Orders - Wright Eclipse - 14/03/2013, 15:02
RE: New Buses Orders - Gillmoss 0324 - 14/03/2013, 16:24
RE: New Buses Orders - Phil - 16/03/2013, 12:43
RE: New Buses Orders - Neoplan N4009 - 15/03/2013, 23:08
RE: New Buses Orders - Polo Mint - 16/03/2013, 14:09
RE: New Buses Orders - First Class - 16/03/2013, 21:32
RE: New Buses Orders - wirralbus - 17/03/2013, 00:14
RE: New Buses Orders - H101GEV - 17/03/2013, 00:57
RE: New Buses Orders - wirralbus - 17/03/2013, 12:23
RE: New Buses Orders - First Class - 17/03/2013, 13:00
RE: New Buses Orders - H101GEV - 17/03/2013, 13:43
RE: New Buses Orders - First Class - 17/03/2013, 17:25
RE: New Buses Orders - wirralbus - 17/03/2013, 17:39
RE: New Buses Orders - H101GEV - 17/03/2013, 18:09
RE: New Buses Orders - First Class - 17/03/2013, 18:40
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RE: New Buses Orders - K853 MTJ - 19/03/2013, 00:21
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RE: New Buses Orders - Arriva3137 - 19/03/2013, 07:36
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RE: New Buses Orders - V671 DVU - 22/03/2013, 13:26
RE: New Buses Orders - Phil - 22/03/2013, 14:50
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RE: New Buses Orders - Raawwwrrr! - 22/03/2013, 16:49
RE: New Buses Orders - M113 YKC - 22/03/2013 21:16
RE: New Buses Orders - Phil - 24/03/2013, 12:42
RE: New Buses Orders - Gillmoss 0324 - 26/03/2013, 20:52
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RE: New Buses Orders - Phil - 24/03/2013, 17:34
RE: New Buses Orders - M113 YKC - 24/03/2013, 17:37
RE: New Buses Orders - Phil - 24/03/2013, 17:39
RE: New Buses Orders - Raawwwrrr! - 24/03/2013, 19:58
RE: New Buses Orders - T42 PVM - 27/03/2013, 10:42
RE: New Buses Orders - Gillmoss 0324 - 27/03/2013, 12:25
RE: New Buses Orders - Valandil - 27/03/2013, 12:28
RE: New Buses Orders - T42 PVM - 27/03/2013, 13:34
RE: New Buses Orders - Gillmoss 0324 - 27/03/2013, 21:30
RE: New Buses Orders - Wright Eclipse - 27/03/2013, 22:01
RE: New Buses Orders - T42 PVM - 28/03/2013, 09:46
RE: New Buses Orders - MPTE1955 - 28/03/2013, 11:02
RE: New Buses Orders - T42 PVM - 28/03/2013, 11:08
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RE: New Buses Orders - CX06 EBK - 28/03/2013, 13:35
RE: New Buses Orders - Wright Eclipse - 28/03/2013, 13:46
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