Poll: Should Merseyrail expand to Wigan? This poll is closed. |
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4 | 26.67% |
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Future Rail Projects
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There used to be a line between Ormskirk and skem but I think it has been built on over the years since being closed. |
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Didnt they want to run a service from Ormskirk to Southport also via a disused curve at Burscough. |
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RE: Future Rail Projects
(18/12/2012 06:56)Peterw Wrote: There used to be a line between Ormskirk and skem but I think it has been built on over the years since being closed. The track bed between Ormskirk and Skem is mostly still there. I think the only section that's been completely built over is the ironically-titled Railway Road, which follows the track bed, going through Old Skem. For a link to Skem to work to its' full potential, I feel a rail link has got to hit the town centre....somehow!!!! The Beatles, Fountains Of Wayne, XTC, The Who, ELO [font=Impact][/font]
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(18/12/2012 07:55)wirralbus Wrote: Didnt they want to run a service from Ormskirk to Southport also via a disused curve at Burscough. Again the track bed is still intact, and to make some kind of physical link between Burscough and Burscough Junction would not take too much brain-scratching. Merseytravel have made noises about this particular link coming to fruition. The Beatles, Fountains Of Wayne, XTC, The Who, ELO [font=Impact][/font]
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(17/12/2012 22:29)First Class Wrote:(17/12/2012 22:09)507009 Wrote: I am definitely in favour of an extension to Headbolt Lane as is planned, which will benefit a sizeable proportion of Kirkby's population for whom the current station at Westvale is inconvenient and the bus service (20/21) under capacity. Wigan is a stretch too far though in my opinion, not being anywhere near Merseyside and an area with no real connection with the county. Skelmersdale is a different proposition, having considerable ties with Liverpool as an overspill town. However, I would've thought electrification via Ormskirk would be better. But isnt there already a regular Liverpool-Wigan service from Lime st to Wigan North Western? How cost effective would it be to replace a service that already exists against providing one that does not exist at all? |
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(18/12/2012 10:02)skelmersey Wrote:(17/12/2012 22:29)First Class Wrote:(17/12/2012 22:09)507009 Wrote: I am definitely in favour of an extension to Headbolt Lane as is planned, which will benefit a sizeable proportion of Kirkby's population for whom the current station at Westvale is inconvenient and the bus service (20/21) under capacity. Wigan is a stretch too far though in my opinion, not being anywhere near Merseyside and an area with no real connection with the county. Skelmersdale is a different proposition, having considerable ties with Liverpool as an overspill town. However, I would've thought electrification via Ormskirk would be better. The current Lime Street - Wigan North Western service is a victim of its' own success. The line is already working to capacity. There's a ready-made alternative that's so under-utilised it's untrue. Remember, trains used to run direct between Wigan Wallgate and Liverpool Exchange before electrification to Kirkby. It could be seen as "righting a wrong", so to speak. Who knows? The Beatles, Fountains Of Wayne, XTC, The Who, ELO [font=Impact][/font]
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(18/12/2012 10:10)teenagewasteland Wrote:(18/12/2012 10:02)skelmersey Wrote:(17/12/2012 22:29)First Class Wrote: What about naming Headbolt Lane as Tower Hill? Rename Kirkby (Merseyside) as Kirkby Town. Ticketing wise you just create a new cluster "Kirkby Stns". Understood, but the investigation costing £150,000 (Lancs CC and Merseytravel footing this) is to find the best way of getting the rail link for Skem, it would be great if Merseyrail ran through to Wigan and Skem but in the real world its never going to happen. As far as I can remember (was young at the time!) the Wigan-Exchange trains were well used and only declined when someone took a great big pair of scissors and snipped it at Kirkby, so I see your point. |
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RE: Future Rail Projects
(18/12/2012 06:47)wirralbus Wrote: I always thought two of the long term aspirations on the Northern Line was extending from Hunts Cross to Warrington Central and from Ormskirk to Preston. Don't forget Ellesmere Port - Helsby - Runcorn... which, especially the Halton Curve section, has interested Merseytravel. |
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Wasnt the Halton curve earmarked for a Liverpool -Chester - Shrewsbury service , had heard noises that Arriva Trains Wales had wanted to operate back into Liverpool Lime street |
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RE: Future Rail Projects
(18/12/2012 10:00)teenagewasteland Wrote:(18/12/2012 07:55)wirralbus Wrote: Didnt they want to run a service from Ormskirk to Southport also via a disused curve at Burscough. The idea I've heard about is to build a new interchange station where the Wigan to Southport & Ormskirk to Preston lines cross. |
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