Greater Manchester Tenders

[Mrboo]

RE: Greater Manchester Tenders

(23/01/2022 13:05)Y458 KNF Wrote:  Diamond have the evening 247s the only route of theirs left that goes to Altrincham I think in time Diamond will ditch some of the Eccles routes and transfer those kept to Bolton that have less dead mileage.

Not worth doing this yet. As currently they will 2 depots if they close Eccles they will get 0 from TFGM for when they lose that area in 2025. as it could be they lose Bolton but keep Eccles. as it a small unit they may not buy that depot.

[SF07]

RE: Greater Manchester Tenders
Registrations from Rosso for the new/revised services in Rochdale and Oldham for April 2022. Includes the 402 and 403 between Oldham and Shaw, the extended R7 to Middleton and the R9/R10 replacement services for the 408/435 between Rochdale and Shaw.


PC0001838/408 Registered
ROSSENDALE TRANSPORT LTD
Route: Rochdale to Rochdale via Milnrow, Shaw & Buckstones
Service number: R9 (R10)
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 24 Apr 2022

PC0001838/407 Registered
ROSSENDALE TRANSPORT LTD
Route: Rochdale to Middleton via Kirkholt
Service number: R7
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 24 Apr 2022

PC0001838/406 Registered
ROSSENDALE TRANSPORT LTD
Route: Rochdale to Rochdale via Milnrow & Ladyhouse
Service number: R6
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 24 Apr 2022

PC0001838/405 Registered
ROSSENDALE TRANSPORT LTD
Route: Rochdale to Littleborough via Milnrow
Service number: R5
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 24 Apr 2022

PC0001838/404 Registered
ROSSENDALE TRANSPORT LTD
Route: Rochdale to Peppermint Bridge via Milnrow
Service number: R4
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 24 Apr 2022

PC0001838/403 Registered
ROSSENDALE TRANSPORT LTD
Route: Rochdale to Wallbank via Healey Corner
Service number: R3
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 24 Apr 2022

PC0001838/402 Registered
ROSSENDALE TRANSPORT LTD
Route: Rochdale to Bury via Norden & Heywood
Service number: R2
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 24 Apr 2022

PC0001838/401 Registered
ROSSENDALE TRANSPORT LTD
Route: Bury to Heywood via Fairfield Hospital
Service number: B4
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 24 Apr 2022

PC0001838/400 Registered
ROSSENDALE TRANSPORT LTD
Route: Bury to Nangreaves via Limefield & Chesham
Service number: B2
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 24 Apr 2022

PC0001838/399 Registered
ROSSENDALE TRANSPORT LTD
Route: Bury to Peel Brow via Ramsbottom
Service number: B1
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 24 Apr 2022

PC0001838/397 Registered
ROSSENDALE TRANSPORT LTD
Route: Oldham to Oldham Circular via Shaw & Rushcroft
Service number: 403
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 24 Apr 2022

PC0001838/396 Registered
ROSSENDALE TRANSPORT LTD
Route: Oldham to Oldham Circular via Shaw and Buckstones
Service number: 402
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 24 Apr 2022

PC0001838/395 Registered
ROSSENDALE TRANSPORT LTD
Route: Rochdale to Rochdale Circular via Kirkholt
Service number: 6
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 24 Apr 2022

[Mayneway]

RE: Greater Manchester Tenders
With the demise of MCT and First not really having any interest at all, Rosso have got a little bit of an advantage now in Oldham/Rochdale and to a degree Bury. Only issue with Rosso is they seem to have a constant shortage of drivers which may cause them issues in the future.

[M60lad]

RE: Greater Manchester Tenders
Have Rosso at Rochdale actually got enough vehicles to operate these services or will they have to acquire some from somewhere?

[Mikeonthebuses]

RE: Greater Manchester Tenders
It will be really nice to see Rosso again around Oldham but who will be operating the new 411 Oldham to Derker service

[Nwales Bus]

RE: Greater Manchester Tenders

(02/02/2022 06:55)M60lad Wrote:  Have Rosso at Rochdale actually got enough vehicles to operate these services or will they have to acquire some from somewhere?

New vehicles are incoming to the fleet. A number of ex Nottingham Enviro200s have been purchased and are expected at Team Pennine which could result in some solos being passed over to Rosso

[Mayneway]

RE: Greater Manchester Tenders

(02/02/2022 10:23)Nwales Bus Wrote:  New vehicles are incoming to the fleet. A number of ex Nottingham Enviro200s have been purchased and are expected at Team Pennine which could result in some solos being passed over to Rosso

Oh dear. The last handful of solos that came from ‘team Pennine’ or Yorkshire tiger look very nice all painted in Rosso yellow etc, they have even had seat re-trims, but they spend more time broken down than they do in service.
Seems to be every other day in Bury I see one being attended to by engineers.

[NorthernCounties]

RE: Greater Manchester Tenders

(02/02/2022 07:46)Mikeonthebuses Wrote:  It will be really nice to see Rosso again around Oldham but who will be operating the new 411 Oldham to Derker service

I've been told stagecoach are doing it from middleton depot using a decker. Apparently its interworkng with a saddleworth school route am and pm

[Mikeonthebuses]

RE: Greater Manchester Tenders

(02/02/2022 12:18)NorthernCounties Wrote:  I've been told stagecoach are doing it from middleton depot using a decker. Apparently its interworkng with a saddleworth school route am and pm

If that is the case wouldn't it make sense for Stagecoach to extend the 76 to Derker instead of launching a new standalone service but would that be too much common sense by both parties?

[Solo40336]

RE: Greater Manchester Tenders

(02/02/2022 13:33)Mikeonthebuses Wrote:  If that is the case wouldn't it make sense for Stagecoach to extend the 76 to Derker instead of launching a new standalone service but would that be too much common sense by both parties?

Presumably the two services wouldn't line up very well, extending the 76 would would extend the drivers duty times, things like meal breaks would have to then be adjusted, say a driver does his first half on a 76, has a break then goes out on a different route, duty times on the other routes then need adjusting, why go to so much hassle when as a tender the cost of an additional bus with a couple of extra duties will have been factored in, and covered by TfGM?

Also to take into account, the 76 is a very easily delayed service, any delay on a 76 arriving into Oldham causes the 411 section to Derker to be late, with some hefty fines from TfGM.