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RE: Greater Manchester Tenders
(01/03/2022 13:48)Solo40336 Wrote: You can't smell the difference between Euro 5 or 6, take it from someone who has spent 40 hours a week for the last decade breathing in buses exhaust fumes and who has been heavily involved in the Euro 6 retrofits across various GM fleets, If I stood next to a Euro 5 or 6 bus with my eyes closed, I couldn't tell either apart, so neither can a bus station inspector. Well maybe D&G have designated drivers for Euro V and Euro VI vehicles and they have different driving styles. Both SL64 JGU and YX14 RZA went past me at lunchtime today. The first while going up a hill, the second on a flat road and I noticed an exhaust smell from the second but not the first. Strange it was that way around, if you can't smell the difference isn't it? |
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(28/02/2022 22:20)Mayneway Wrote: Only school contracts and some regular contracts have specified euro 6. Stagecoach, GNW and many others are still using non Euro 6 vehicles.All contracts awarded since at least Sept 21 require Euro 6. Operators declare emissions status in the fleet lists supplied to TFGM. |
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Can confirm that Euro 6 is a requirement from TfGM. Have a copy of a Service Specification document for the new 44 starting on 24th April for 3 yr 3 day, with max age rating of 15 years and min euro rating of 6.0. Also min capacity of 57. Also it is expected that Manchester departures will be typically 21 mins past the hour from 6:21 to 18:21 (7:01 is different time) and Altrincham departure at 52 past (6:52 to 17:52). Sadly no mention of operator from what I can see. Play City Bus Manager? I've compiled collections from different bus mods helpfully created by the community: https://steamcommunity.com/id/dounowhoia...id=1364210 _________________ Play "Bus Simulator 18" on PC, check out my "Finglands" bus mod: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f...2122981042 |
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So if the min capacity is going to be 57 then whoever is going to be running 44 will have to run it with either full size singles or double deckers be interesting to see who has won the new 44 contract/tender and what vehicles they will use. |
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(03/03/2022 06:32)M60lad Wrote: So if the min capacity is going to be 57 then whoever is going to be running 44 will have to run it with either full size singles or double deckers be interesting to see who has won the new 44 contract/tender and what vehicles they will use. It would be strange for a contracted service to require 57 seats on every journey. Maybe the 57 relates to journeys which will carry school pupils, who won't pay full fare but will need a considerable number of seats. I think a decker running a 44 from Altrincham to Manchester will be a bit like the old 378 running from Wilmslow. For much of the day you'll be able to count the number of passengers on it leaving Altrincham on your fingers. |
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Long Single Decker not even a stock Enviro200 with 11.8m length as has 43 seats |
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There is a key bit of information missing here. Is this a 57 seats or overall capacity 57. Different areas do it differently. Of course 57 capacity would mean a stock 8.9m 200MMC would be fine to use (30 seats + 27 standing according to Chartwell Bus Sales) |
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(03/03/2022 14:34)iMarkeh Wrote: There is a key bit of information missing here. Is this a 57 seats or overall capacity 57. Now you say that I'm sure someone said before that TfGM contract based on total capacity, unlike Cheshire East who contract on number of seats. |
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Some more proposed changes to services next month (24 April):
https://democracy.greatermanchester-ca.g...rt%20A.pdf |
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Also confirmed the 2 hourly Sunday 288 won't continue to be interworked with a 88, with the funding for the 88 being withdrawn. |
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