Arriva North West - Winsford Depot

[33109]

RE: Arriva North West - Winsford Depot

(14/03/2023 22:37)Y458 KNF Wrote:  What routes still need to be saved? I know some wont be.

4 - Upton Priory Circular
9 - Moss Rose Circular
5&6 - Upton Priory & Weston Circular

Suspect high peak may take these as they are recruiting for drivers in macclesfield.

[Y458 KNF]

RE: Arriva North West - Winsford Depot

(16/03/2023 18:18)33109 Wrote:  4 - Upton Priory Circular
9 - Moss Rose Circular
5&6 - Upton Priory & Weston Circular

Suspect high peak may take these as they are recruiting for drivers in macclesfield.

I had a feeling High Peak would take the Macc outstation routes

[iMarkeh]

RE: Arriva North West - Winsford Depot
Just for completeness (As well as some news not yet reported on this forum), the current list is as follows:

1 - Covered by D&G but with a vastly reduced timetable
3 - Uncovered
4 (Macc) - Uncovered
4 (Northwich) - Tender Issued (see below)
5 - Uncovered
6 (Macc) - Uncovered
6 (Crewe) - Brookhouse covered by D&G route 12, Crewe to Leighton covered by D&G rerouting the 12
7A/C - School Green covered by rerouting of the 31 Wharton covered by rerouting of 37. Over and Industrial estate out to tender (See below)
9 - Uncovered
10 - Covered by D&G but reduced operating hours
31 - Covered by D&G though some route changes in Winsford and Crewe.
37 - Covered by D&G though rerouted around Wharton.
38 - D&G have retimed their services to better match what Arriva is running.
84 - Mon-Sat 'core' service covered by Stagecoach. Vastly reduced number of 'short' runs though between Nantwich and Crewe. Evenings and Sundays gone out to tender


Current tenders issued:
4 Barnton to Northwich to Leftwich - Timetable unconfirmed
84 Crewe to Chester Evenings - Bus 1: 20:35 Crewe to Chester, 20:05 Chester - Crewe, Mon-Thu 21:25 Crewe - Nantwich, FriSat 21:25 Crewe - Chester, 22:40 Chester - Crewe.
84 Crewe to Chester Sundays - Reduced timetable running every 90 minutes using 2 buses.
W7 - New Winsford Circular to run hourly. Similar to the current X31 route except serves Dene Drive instead of Stanlow Lane. The eastern loop does just Morrisons, Train Station, Industrial Estate, Morrisons. No stops inbetween. 2 timetable options have gone out. 1 is for all day, 1 is for 4 off peak round trips.
X31 Northwich to Over (Nightlife Express) - Timetable revised, now runs with first bus at 19:00 from Winsford and last bus is 23:40 from Northwich.

[KX03 KYY]

RE: Arriva North West - Winsford Depot

(17/03/2023 01:45)iMarkeh Wrote:  Just for completeness (As well as some news not yet reported on this forum), the current list is as follows:

1 - Covered by D&G but with a vastly reduced timetable
3 - Uncovered
4 (Macc) - Uncovered
4 (Northwich) - Tender Issued (see below)
5 - Uncovered
6 (Macc) - Uncovered
6 (Crewe) - Brookhouse covered by D&G route 12, Crewe to Leighton covered by D&G rerouting the 12
7A/C - School Green covered by rerouting of the 31 Wharton covered by rerouting of 37. Over and Industrial estate out to tender (See below)
9 - Uncovered
10 - Covered by D&G but reduced operating hours
31 - Covered by D&G though some route changes in Winsford and Crewe.
37 - Covered by D&G though rerouted around Wharton.
38 - D&G have retimed their services to better match what Arriva is running.
84 - Mon-Sat 'core' service covered by Stagecoach. Vastly reduced number of 'short' runs though between Nantwich and Crewe. Evenings and Sundays gone out to tender


Current tenders issued:
4 Barnton to Northwich to Leftwich - Timetable unconfirmed
84 Crewe to Chester Evenings - Bus 1: 20:35 Crewe to Chester, 20:05 Chester - Crewe, Mon-Thu 21:25 Crewe - Nantwich, FriSat 21:25 Crewe - Chester, 22:40 Chester - Crewe.
84 Crewe to Chester Sundays - Reduced timetable running every 90 minutes using 2 buses.
W7 - New Winsford Circular to run hourly. Similar to the current X31 route except serves Dene Drive instead of Stanlow Lane. The eastern loop does just Morrisons, Train Station, Industrial Estate, Morrisons. No stops inbetween. 2 timetable options have gone out. 1 is for all day, 1 is for 4 off peak round trips.
X31 Northwich to Over (Nightlife Express) - Timetable revised, now runs with first bus at 19:00 from Winsford and last bus is 23:40 from Northwich.

Thought above someone said 6 is being operated by first potteries?

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RE: Arriva North West - Winsford Depot

(17/03/2023 01:54)CX06 BHE Wrote:  Thought above someone said 6 is being operated by first potteries?

They've registered a 6 Leighton Hospital to Crewe route. It's likely D&G were unaware of their intention when they registered their new routes and revisions, like the 12 being diverted. There is a disclaimer on their new timetable page that they may change before April and to check back closer to the time.

[iMarkeh]

RE: Arriva North West - Winsford Depot

(17/03/2023 01:54)CX06 BHE Wrote:  Thought above someone said 6 is being operated by first potteries?

As no timetable has been released, I thought it best to leave it off. Similar to D&G on the 84, First may have registered when they saw the opportunity and then rethink when they see it's covered by other operators.

[knutstransport]

RE: Arriva North West - Winsford Depot

(17/03/2023 22:38)iMarkeh Wrote:  As no timetable has been released, I thought it best to leave it off. Similar to D&G on the 84, First may have registered when they saw the opportunity and then rethink when they see it's covered by other operators.

VOSA actually shows First have submitted a registration for the 6. While it shows D&G registrations for a number of Arriva routes, it doesn't include anything for a D&G 84 - not even a registered one that's since been revised or cancelled. Either or both operators may rethink their plans for Leighton Hospital.

[Metroline1511]

RE: Arriva North West - Winsford Depot

(15/03/2023 14:42)T42 PVM Wrote:  Just between Crewe and the Hospital it would seem, Should have just extended the number 3

It seems likely that routes 3 & 6 will interwork. Maybe they are separate routes so that passengers can't travel all the way from the Hospital to Hanley for a £2 single.

[knutstransport]

RE: Arriva North West - Winsford Depot
First's 6 timetable: https://www.cheshireeast.gov.uk/pdf/publ...3.4.23.pdf

If D&G keep their 12 as is currently advertised, it'll mean between 9.45am and 2.45pm they'll be a bus roughly every 15 minutes. First have longer gaps in their timetable in the morning peak and their times don't stick to the same pattern after 3pm. First's service ends 1 hour later on weekdays but only 15-20 minutes later on Saturdays.

[knutstransport]

RE: Arriva North West - Winsford Depot

(18/03/2023 17:18)Metroline1511 Wrote:  Maybe they are separate routes so that passengers can't travel all the way from the Hospital to Hanley for a £2 single.

Or it might just be First think a familiar route number will avoid confusion and attract passengers.