Upcoming service changes in Merseyside

[Merseysidebusenthusiast]

RE: Upcoming service changes in Merseyside

(26/06/2025 22:08)KX03 KYY Wrote:  Didn't realise 312 came into Merseyside

Heres the timetable; https://merseytravel.adidocdn.dev/timeta...7Nov23.pdf
You'll notice on the map it's literally in Rainford and thats it.

[Jack]

RE: Upcoming service changes in Merseyside
Yeah only just! Got extended into Rainford about 18 months ago.

[Merseysidebusenthusiast]

RE: Upcoming service changes in Merseyside
New 168 service to run from 20th July 2025; St Helens - South Parkway [Morning] Speke - Haydock [Afternoon]
This is a new service operated by Hatton’s Travel. Running one morning journey from St Helens (Shaw Street) at 0830 to Liverpool South Parkway via Widnes and one journey starting from Garston, Speke Road at 1726 to Haydock.

[Y458 KNF]

RE: Upcoming service changes in Merseyside

(03/07/2025 09:14)Merseysidebusenthusiast Wrote:  New 168 service to run from 20th July 2025; St Helens - South Parkway [Morning] Speke - Haydock [Afternoon]
This is a new service operated by Hatton’s Travel. Running one morning journey from St Helens (Shaw Street) at 0830 to Liverpool South Parkway via Widnes and one journey starting from Garston, Speke Road at 1726 to Haydock.

I bet this is a glorified dead run for whatever is allocated on the 167 similar to the 12A & 28A.

[Merseysidebusenthusiast]

RE: Upcoming service changes in Merseyside

(03/07/2025 13:49)Y458 KNF Wrote:  I bet this is a glorified dead run for whatever is allocated on the 167 similar to the 12A & 28A.

Why do Hattons do this though. Is it too make a profit off dead running to a route? Like the 167, 12 & 28.

[St Helens Rider]

RE: Upcoming service changes in Merseyside
Another question is why is this subsidised when the other routes are commercial? Does not seem like the best use of subsidy.

[Y458 KNF]

RE: Upcoming service changes in Merseyside

(03/07/2025 14:12)Merseysidebusenthusiast Wrote:  Why do Hattons do this though. Is it too make a profit off dead running to a route? Like the 167, 12 & 28.

Apparently they get fuel costs back if they run it as commercial service rather than running dead.

[Merseysidebusenthusiast]

RE: Upcoming service changes in Merseyside

(03/07/2025 15:59)Y458 KNF Wrote:  Apparently they get fuel costs back if they run it as commercial service rather than running dead.

Do people actually use these routes?

[Merseysidebusenthusiast]

RE: Upcoming service changes in Merseyside
I have no idea where to put this. But does anyone know where the LW1 went?

[chesterbuses21256]

RE: Upcoming service changes in Merseyside

(Yesterday 10:57)Merseysidebusenthusiast Wrote:  I have no idea where to put this. But does anyone know where the LW1 went?

Als coaches operate it now, it’s renumbered the IOM2