Arriva North West - Bootle Depot

[MPTE1955]

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(12/09/2012 18:31)507009 Wrote:  If you sit in the right place on an X-OBN, you should have a comfortable journey. I'm not a great lover of the Pratico seats, but at least on these they've worn in well unlike the Stagecoach Enviros where they are as stiff as a board. Their interiors are nice, but with P&P they would look superb.

The Marshalls are undoubtedly Bootle's worst buses, but their age will probably see them stick around a bit longer. I know Bootle want rid as soon as possible, but surely it's T-PNBs and X-OBNs first. The T-plates should be gone throughout Arriva North West by the end of the year.

Exactly with the X-OBNS you have to make sure that you get the right seat and they are fine, I had 2263 on the 61 last week and didnt have comfort issues as I chose the correct seat. The problems with legroom comes when you get on one where you dont have a lot of choice on where to sit. With the T-PNB's and the Marshalls well the T reg ones are the same age and V reg are still not far behind being in the same 12 month period.

[M113 YKC]

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(12/09/2012 18:34)MPTE1955 Wrote:  I cant help thinking that the marshalls may go first, they are really showing their age now and ride quality is becoming pretty bad. If it is not them well it certainly won't be long anyway as in probably less than a year with the worst ones.

I personally doubt that they'll go because of their poor ride-quality - if they're on the road, Arriva don't care! The T-PNBs are older and so they'll probably go first - whether they're better or worse than the Marshalls. If Arriva thought about the quality of their buses first, their fleet would probably be different!

[MPTE1955]

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(12/09/2012 18:39)27701 Wrote:  

(12/09/2012 18:34)MPTE1955 Wrote:  I cant help thinking that the marshalls may go first, they are really showing their age now and ride quality is becoming pretty bad. If it is not them well it certainly won't be long anyway as in probably less than a year with the worst ones.

I personally doubt that they'll go because of their poor ride-quality - if they're on the road, Arriva don't care! The T-PNBs are older and so they'll probably go first - whether they're better or worse than the Marshalls. If Arriva thought about the quality of their buses first, their fleet would probably be different!

You never know, maybe I am just wishful thinking, I suppose we will see.

[H101GEV (Administrator)]

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While I think on, has that God-awful R-ABA that was at Bootle finally crocked it? Haven't seen it recently.

[MPTE1955]

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(12/09/2012 18:41)507009 Wrote:  While I think on, has that God-awful R-ABA that was at Bootle finally crocked it? Haven't seen it recently.

If you mean 7569 well yes that has gone to scrap along with 7551 that they had for a short time.

[H101GEV (Administrator)]

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Indeed, I meant 7569. Thanks for that, good riddance to bad rubbish.

[M113 YKC]

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(12/09/2012 18:45)507009 Wrote:  Indeed, I meant 7569. Thanks for that, good riddance to bad rubbish.

I know that we're all entitled to our opinions but 7569 wasn't "bad rubbish". It was lovely when it arrived and its quality decreased before it was withdrawn, but it was never a "bad" bus.

[MPTE1955]

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(12/09/2012 19:05)27701 Wrote:  

(12/09/2012 18:45)507009 Wrote:  Indeed, I meant 7569. Thanks for that, good riddance to bad rubbish.

I know that we're all entitled to our opinions but 7569 wasn't "bad rubbish". It was lovely when it arrived and its quality decreased before it was withdrawn, but it was never a "bad" bus.

To be honest, I had 7569 around about a week before it was withdrawn and it was still better than some X-ANCs and certainly better than most marshalls.

[H101GEV (Administrator)]

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(12/09/2012 19:05)27701 Wrote:  I know that we're all entitled to our opinions but 7569 wasn't "bad rubbish". It was lovely when it arrived and its quality decreased before it was withdrawn, but it was never a "bad" bus.

Depends on your perception of "bad", though, doesn't it? It had a grim, tired interior, rode roughly and was quite sluggish when I've ridden it in the past. Others may like that sort of thing, but I don't.

[anw2015]

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Nice to see the 53 getting buses deserved of a QBP! I was thinking this before but with the mylleniums/ alx 300's rumoured to go from Birkenhead when they get there new pulsars, surely a few of these buses would be ideal for the 311? I cant imagine the reliability rate of the darts is that good on such a long route! Especially 12 year old plus darts!