0063 DEM 763Y Metro registered as a Scania

[markbootsie]

0063 DEM 763Y Metro registered as a Scania
With reference to my Metrobus. It is registered as a Scania and not a MCW. I have spoken to DVLA and they suggested i contact a preservation site or an owners club to see if there is any proof somewhere that it should be registered as a MCW. 0062 is registered as a Leyland but 0059 is registered as a Metrobus but does not have MCW as its make.I cant find any others to check. Can anyone help with this please

[MPTE1955]

RE: 0063 DEM 763Y Metro registered as a Scania
As far as I know, the batch of buses of 0056-0063 were all MCW, certainly not Scanias.

[markbootsie]

RE: 0063 DEM 763Y Metro registered as a Scania
Yes that's correct they are definitely MCW. I am trying to find conformation of this and trying to get DVLA to change the make to MCW which they will if i can get this info. Of course MCW are no longer.

(27/08/2013 17:38)MPTE1955 Wrote:  As far as I know, the batch of buses of 0056-0063 were all MCW, certainly not Scanias.

[SNL 824]

RE: 0063 DEM 763Y Metro registered as a Scania
As a starting point try bus lists on the web chassis lists. That confirms chassis number MB6757

[YN05 WKE]

RE: 0063 DEM 763Y Metro registered as a Scania

(27/08/2013 12:22)markbootsie Wrote:  With reference to my Metrobus. It is registered as a Scania and not a MCW. I have spoken to DVLA and they suggested i contact a preservation site or an owners club to see if there is any proof somewhere that it should be registered as a MCW. 0062 is registered as a Leyland but 0059 is registered as a Metrobus but does not have MCW as its make.I cant find any others to check. Can anyone help with this please

Can I ask is your MCW a second one preserved?

[MPTE1955]

RE: 0063 DEM 763Y Metro registered as a Scania

(28/08/2013 17:30)E208 WBG Wrote:  

(27/08/2013 12:22)markbootsie Wrote:  With reference to my Metrobus. It is registered as a Scania and not a MCW. I have spoken to DVLA and they suggested i contact a preservation site or an owners club to see if there is any proof somewhere that it should be registered as a MCW. 0062 is registered as a Leyland but 0059 is registered as a Metrobus but does not have MCW as its make.I cant find any others to check. Can anyone help with this please

Can I ask is your MCW a second one preserved?

Not in bus form its not Andy, I did see a photo that Mark kindly posted somewhere showing that it looks very different to how it used to, If I remember rightly he uses it as a motor home or something like that. (Sorry for answering for you Mark)

[markbootsie]

RE: 0063 DEM 763Y Metro registered as a Scania

(28/08/2013 18:58)MPTE1955 Wrote:  

(28/08/2013 17:30)E208 WBG Wrote:  

(27/08/2013 12:22)markbootsie Wrote:  With reference to my Metrobus. It is registered as a Scania and not a MCW. I have spoken to DVLA and they suggested i contact a preservation site or an owners club to see if there is any proof somewhere that it should be registered as a MCW. 0062 is registered as a Leyland but 0059 is registered as a Metrobus but does not have MCW as its make.I cant find any others to check. Can anyone help with this please

Can I ask is your MCW a second one preserved?

Not in bus form its not Andy, I did see a photo that Mark kindly posted somewhere showing that it looks very different to how it used to, If I remember rightly he uses it as a motor home or something like that. (Sorry for answering for you Mark)

As previously mentioned I have converted it into a motorhome and I don't you answering for me. I have contacted the webmaster at buslists on the web and awaiting a reply. I just don't understand how on earth it could have ever been registered as a Scania. There are many pictures of it now on the web. Just type the reg no in any search engine. Sorry if I offended anyone with my conversion by the way.
Mark

[MPTE1955]

RE: 0063 DEM 763Y Metro registered as a Scania
Mark, its you bus and your money, if anybody is offended by you changing it into a motor home then that is their problem. Wonder who it was that registered it as a Scania, strange hopefully you will get it re-registered back to MCW.

[mathias]

RE: 0063 DEM 763Y Metro registered as a Scania

(27/08/2013 12:22)markbootsie Wrote:  With reference to my Metrobus. It is registered as a Scania and not a MCW. I have spoken to DVLA and they suggested i contact a preservation site or an owners club to see if there is any proof somewhere that it should be registered as a MCW. 0062 is registered as a Leyland but 0059 is registered as a Metrobus but does not have MCW as its make.I cant find any others to check. Can anyone help with this please

The MPTE bought quite a few Scania BR111DH Metropolitan/MCW deckers in the mid-'70s, and this is where DVLA's confusion may arise.

I'm pretty certain 0063 should be registered as an MCW, but (according to a DVLA Vehicle Enquiry) these 1974 Scanias were -in fact- MCWs;
4032 (RKA 432N) NEW 04-09-1974, DEAD 23-09-1993, DIESEL, BROWN.
4033 (RKA 433N) NEW 04-09-1974, DEAD 30-05-1989, DIESEL, WHITE.
4034 (RKA 434N) NEW 04-09-1974, DEAD 19-12-1989, DIESEL, BLUE.
4035 (RKA 435N) NEW 04-09-1974, DEAD 31-10-1984, DIESEL, GREEN.

...Whereas these ones were listed as being Scanias;
4036 (RKA 436N) NEW 25-09-1974, DEAD 30-08-1989, DIESEL, BLUE.
4037 (RKA 437N) NEW 25-09-1974, DEAD 01-08-1989, DIESEL, BLUE.
4038 (RKA 438N) NEW 25-09-1974, DEAD 07-02-1985, DIESEL, GREEN.
4039 (RKA 439N) NEW 25-09-1974, DEAD 31-10-1984, DIESEL, GREEN.
4040 (RKA 440N) NEW 25-09-1974, DEAD 07-02-1985, DIESEL, GREEN.

As you can see, the ones registered in early Sept '74 were MCWs but the ones in late Sept were Scanias.
Personally, I can't tell the difference (is there a difference?). MPTE 4034 was an MCW;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7964319@N03/5084775200
(Photo Credit; kwk33f)

But MPTE 4040 was a Scania;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22455491@N02/2455571510
(Photo Credit; Martyn Hearson)

Apparently, they were very fast buses (compared to British Leyland/Bristol stuff) with very high fuel consumption (due to energy losses in the transmission) and the usual MCW habit of structural corrosion.
The ones that 'died' in (verona) green seem to have been scrapped by the MPTE after just ten years' service (a terribly short life), whereas the others went to Kingston-upon-Hull Corporation, according to the Liverpool Transport 1957-86 book.
None of them survived into Merseybus ownership in 1986, unlike many Alexander-bodied Atlanteans from the early '70s which lived until they were ousted by the 6501-6623 Volvo B10Bs.

Maybe the DVLA think that if an MPTE decker has MCW bodywork, they automatically assume it must be a Scania, and this may explain why your Metrobus is listed as one?

[gka472l]

RE: 0063 DEM 763Y Metro registered as a Scania
DEM763Y reported elsewhere as being sighted at Plymouth Citybus's depot in a two tone blue livery