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RE: Arriva's 2013-15 Orders
(21/03/2014 13:35)steve517757 Wrote: The amount of Euro5 products that can be delivered in 2014 is very restricted.You're wrong on at least three of those points, I'm afraid... |
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Can you please correct those points then? Cos I for one am very unclear as to how many E5 vehicles can still be produced...everywhere you look is a different number! |
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(21/03/2014 16:35)mbonwick Wrote: Can you please correct those points then? Cos I for one am very unclear as to how many E5 vehicles can still be produced...everywhere you look is a different number! I Think its something like if its a UK Manufacturer (Wright,ADL,Optare) they can produce upto 350 E5 Vehicles,if its out of UK (Volvo,Scania,VDL) They can only produce 20 But im not 100% certain on it |
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RE: Arriva's 2013-15 Orders
(19/03/2014 20:02)MX59 JZJ Wrote: Updated Order List March 19 2014 New order news regarding the North East - due to the order lag time, there has now been a change for the decker order, all 12 deckers for the North East will now be Enviro400s, 6 to normal specification for the long X18 service (Newcastle-Alnwick-Berwick) and 6 'Sapphire' examples for the X21/X22 (Newcastle-Ashington(-Newbiggin X21 only)). Your roving North East reporter, bring you the latest news from Arriva North East, Stagcoach North East and Go North East.
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(22/03/2014 21:44)kuyoyo Wrote: New order news regarding the North East - due to the order lag time, there has now been a change for the decker order, all 12 deckers for the North East will now be Enviro400s, 6 to normal specification for the long X18 service (Newcastle-Alnwick-Berwick) and 6 'Sapphire' examples for the X21/X22 (Newcastle-Ashington(-Newbiggin X21 only)). Thanks Tony, I have updated my post on Page 6 with your information and credited it to you. _______________ Formerly MX59 JZJ |
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(21/03/2014 15:55)126th street Wrote: You're wrong on at least three of those points, I'm afraid... OK please explain - I was under the impression that National Small Series Type Approval (NSSTA) was being used to circumnavigate the Euro6 requirements. If this is the case and I have misunderstood the terms of this scheme I am happy to be corrected. http://www.dft.gov.uk/vca//vehicletype/n...series.asp And here is route-one's summery of Euro5 derogation "Derogation is potentially messy and complex, but in short, any single-stage (e.g. integral) or multi-stage (e.g. bodyon- chassis) vehicle must have a valid COC (Certificate of Conformity) issued before 30 September if the vehicle is to be derogated for registration next year. Chassis built after this date need to be registered before 31 December. Derogated Euro 5 vehicles can be registered up to 30 June 2015; this includes Stage 1 of multi-stage construction. Single-stage (integrals) have to be registered by June 2014. However, funding vehicle production will be the ultimate constraint as to how many vehicles will be available. An alternative is the Individual Vehicle Approval (IVA) or National Small Series Type Approval (NSSTA) route. The UK has not issued the required statutory regulation to update IVA/NSSTA to require Euro 6 engines. Therefore, it is possible to produce Euro 5 vehicles. There is no plan to update the process before mid-2014, but this is not fixed. Any change would usually be preceded by a consultation, legal papers and notification period, a process taking 12 months minimum and the process has not yet started. However, the Department for Transport (DfT) could ‘rush’ it through, so there’s no guarantee. Certainly for the first half of 2014 it will be possible to purchase Euro 5 buses via the NSSTA or IVA routes. This is more costly (around £750) than European Whole Vehicle Type Approval (WVTA), but cheaper than Euro 6." |
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(18/03/2014 20:32)126th street Wrote: It depends on what variant they order. If they go for Euro 5 they will be the current design and if they plump for Euro 6 then it will be the revised example, a la the disguised one that has been seen already. Alexander Dennis have a product brochure for the Euro VI (or Euro 6) Enviro400 on their website, and it is the same general design as the Euro V bus, with the differences such as the extended overhang already seen on prototypes MX12EOC and SN63VTX. The brochure is here: http://www.alexander-dennis.com/wp-conte...cation.pdf. I could be misunderstanding you here, but by 'disguised one', I think you mean the rather ugly brute we saw a photo of some months ago. The product brochure, however, implies that at least early orders for Euro VI Enviro400s will not be that disguised 'facelifted' design, but rather the same appearance as the prototypes.
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507009 is right - the facelift of the Enviro400 is separate from the change from euro5 to euro6. The 'new' Enviro400 is expected to be unveiled around May time, so until then any order for euro6 Enviro400s will be the current model. |
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RE: Arriva's 2013-15 Orders
Further news here from the North East: The order for 8 Pulsars for Jesmond for service 306 is now 8 Streetlite Max 'Mirco-Hybrid', along with the 5 for Durham plus an additional 2 for Ashington for service 35/35a. The 6 Enviro400s for the X18 will now be to the new 'Arriva Max' specification which is e-leather seats and Wi-Fi (so is broadly a step down from 'Sapphire'). Your roving North East reporter, bring you the latest news from Arriva North East, Stagcoach North East and Go North East.
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RE: Arriva's 2013-15 Orders
Tony, thanks for the update on the goings-on in the North East with the orders, very much appreciated.  Updated Order List April 6 2014 Arriva North East 39 Wrightbus StreetLite Max (6 Micro-Hybrids) 12 Alexander Dennis Enviro400 (6 Sapphire, 6 'Max' specification) - Thanks kuyoyo (06.04.14) Arriva North West 19 Unknown Double Deck 9 Alexander Dennis Enviro400 (Southport, thanks B10B6514) 6 Wrightbus Pulsar 2 Arriva Buses Wales 20 Alexander Dennis Enviro400 15 Wrightbus Pulsar 2 Arriva Yorkshire 4 Optare Solo SR 15 to 20 unknown minibuses (thanks Wright Eclipse) Arriva Midlands 29 Wrightbus Pulsar 2 18 Wrightbus StreetLite Max ?? Double Deckers Arriva Southern Counties (includes Kent, Essex, Bucks, etc) 22 Wrightbus StreetLite Max 8 Wrightbus StreetLite EV 2 Alexander Dennis Enviro400 Known to be for Arriva, but mystery destination 1 Wrightbus StreetLite Max Micro Hybrid Make Model Quantity Ordered Wrightbus StreetLite Max 80 Wrightbus Pulsar 2 50 Alexander Dennis Enviro400 43 Unknown Double Deck 19 Unknown Minibus 15 to 20 Wrightbus StreetLite EV 8 Optare Solo SR 4 Total Vehicles Ordered So Far 219 to 224 _______________ Formerly MX59 JZJ |
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